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zerg super unit

Discussion in 'Zerg' started by ShoGun, Jun 10, 2007.

zerg super unit

Discussion in 'Zerg' started by ShoGun, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. Psionicz

    Psionicz New Member

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    Re: Zerg "Mega" Unit Idea

    If every race had an alternate the game wouldn't be unique, also I'm sure this has been said many times.
     
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    Re: Zerg "Mega" Unit Idea

    Welcome here Lantz, by the way I don't like the zerg having a super unit, that just doesn't fit them, and yes we've discussed this somewhere I think, next time please use the search function :thumbup:
     
  3. Lantz

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    alright, well since its pretty much been resolved that the Terran have Thor as their super unit its most likely that the Zerg will get one too. i know Blizzard too well, they wouldn't leave one race without some powerful unit for balance. i still think my idea for the Zerg super unit is the most logical:
    what if the Zerg had a huge Beetle-esque tank-like unit that could be like a really slow manufacturer that can lay eggs anywhere it goes. it could be a very terrifying and valuable unit to the Zerg. granted there would have to be a certain limit on how many eggs it could lay, but the fact that it would be like a tier 6 unit would add an interesting strategy to the game. in addition it could also spit out a stream of green shit (acid, slime, what have you) on ground units. with its obvious weakness being air-to-ground.
     
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    is their even a tier six?
     
  5. Zerg Drone

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    Re: Zerg "Mega" Unit Idea

    Or not even a mega unit. If the basic units from each faction (The Zealot, Marine, and Zergling) has an extra ability. Like the Zealot can charge, The Marine has a baton, maby the Zergling could devour smaller units at a ramdom chance...but maby this would be to powerful for the basic unit. Then two Zerglings could kill like 6 marines...wait they already can!!!! Muhahahahaha. (No they cant) But think about it.

    I couldn't find the other " 'Mega' " unit forum..so sorry.
     
  6. Lantz

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    idk i was guessing.
     
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    Mothership is no longer a Protoss super-unit.
    Thor is not a Terran super-unit.
    Zerg will NOT have a super-unit.

    There are stronger units, yes, but not super-units in the sense that the Protoss Mothership originally was (only one, lots of damage/health/crazy abilities).
     
  8. Lantz

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    alright, then lets call them badass units. the Zerg deserves one too.
     
  9. EonMaster

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    Re: Zerg "Mega" Unit Idea

    However, it does look like both the terrans and protoss have a single unit that is a little more powerful than anyother unit they have, with a few decent abilities. Most likely, the zerg will also have a new, powerful unit. It will not be as powerful as the other race's unit is, but it would be cheaper and faster to create than the others, following the zerg idea of cheaper, larger armies.

    An idea would be like a defiler with more life, cost, and a decent attack as well as its abilities.
     
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    Instead of an extra larvabuilding, what about a big snail. It can leave eggs or it has larva around itself. It moves very slowly (Reaver) and leaves slime behind himself, when organic units walk over the slime they get "poisened". So the snail can "block out" ways. Average HP and shields, no attack. So it's not a superunit at all, still... a badass unit :p.

    It's a good addon for making big swarms and once it reached the line of fire it can make sure the Zerg will keep producing units and send them to battle immediatly.

    It's good for attack and defence (slime tactics). The slime could eat through armor for example. Leaving marines without shields.
     
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    Edited out quotes. Please read the forum rules and refrain from quoting unnecessarily.


    thats a carbon copy of my idea! but i'll take it. :)
     
  12. needler

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    Ultralisk is enough of a super unit for Zerg. Just make it more useful, so Zerglings don't overlap them. Or what about Infested Protoss. Infested Terran did 500 damage. That's as much as a nuke does. Just imagine what an Infested Protoss would do.

    "My life for Kerrigan!" :D
     
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    I see. A beetle is good too :p .
     
  14. Psionicz

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    I know but I'm saying were people be saying, if Terran has one why can't Protoss, something along them lines. As you can see the primary units for each race differ greatly:
    Zealot: Powerful melee attack
    Zergling: Easy to kill but extremely fast attack
    Marine: Has range
    I'm sure you get what I'm saying.

    Now if we look back on sc1 you could say each super unit was the Ultralisk, Archon, and Battlecruiser which are completly different and strong but not titled super unit.
    In sc2 they are simply stepping up a level or two to make every stronger units that can hold their own which are:
    Mothership
    Thor
    so Zerg will most probably have a ''super unit'' or they might get another strong unit like the Ultralisk.
     
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    well if the ultralisk is a little bigger, has a little more hp, and can step over units and absorbs "high above attacks"(siege tank siege mode, ATG, collosus) so the units beneath cant get hit, i would count it as a badass unit that fits the zerg swarm
     
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    Stronger than usual units from the original:

    Protoss - Archon, Carrier
    Terran - Battlecruiser
    Zerg - Ultralisk, Guardian, Devourer

    Notice how relatively speaking the Zerg's stronger units weren't nearly as powerful as the Protoss and Terran counterparts. We should expect to see the same type of thing in Starcraft II. The Zerg are a swarming race who rely on large numbers of cheaper units to be victorious. We are not going to be seeing any sort of super-type-unit for them. If they bring back the Mothership as a super-unit for the Protoss, Blizzard will probably stick to what they had said originally - that only the Protoss will have a super-unit.

    As it stands right now, the stronger than usual units in Starcraft II are (based on assumption):

    Protoss - Carrier, Mothership, Archon
    Terran - Battlecruiser, Thor
    Zerg - ??

    I can see the Ultralisk making a return, but with a new ability or something that maybe utilizes its large size (as some of you had mentioned). I also expect that we will see some new morphs of the Mutalisk, since we know that the Mutalisk is going to be back. But again for emphasis - we aren't going to see anything crazy or super powerful.
     
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    I think that if the utraliks returns, it needs a special ability that makes it overlap less with the zerglings. I never used ultras, packs of lings were cheaper to use, more fun, and much cheaper to use with similar destructive capabilities.

    I like the danage absorbing ability the best. It would make it an excelent support and direct fighter unit for the zerg. It would give zerglings a better chance at fighting siege tanks because the ultra would absorb most of the damage.
     
  18. Psionicz

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    Doesn't the Thor kinda do that. I'd be happy if the Ultralisk could push past biological units.
     
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    unless the zerg end up getting the protoss and zerg hybrids in their tech tree i dont think a super unit would fit the zerg.
     
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    Zerg probably won't get the hybrids. I agree that Zerg don't need a super unit, Ultralisks can stay as big units, though wouldn't it be nice having a Thor sized Ultralisk in your base?