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Zerg Queen[poll and guide]

Discussion in 'Zerg' started by EonMaster, Mar 10, 2008.

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Do you like the new queen?

  1. Yes, she is the unit I've always wanted for the zerg(powerful spellcaster w/ attack)

    57.8%
  2. Yes, but I don't like the unit limit of 1 queen

    17.6%
  3. Yes, but she has too many abilities

    5.9%
  4. No, I want the queen's abilities redone

    7.8%
  5. No, I want my original queen and sunkerns back

    4.9%
  6. No, I hate the zerg and she will only be a pain in my side

    5.9%

Zerg Queen[poll and guide]

Discussion in 'Zerg' started by EonMaster, Mar 10, 2008.

  1. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    That wouldnt help me at all as I've never played a C&C game. However, it does seem like the Thor is an excellent replacement for the goliath as its stronger and has AOE.
     
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    Yet it would ineffective against capital ships, since the AoE does well only in tight groups of Mutalisks.

    Back to the Queen, she still has Burrow! It wouldn't be too surprising to see several Queens hiding near Hatcheries. I think Razor Swarm should have a Dark Swarm effect as well, which allows it to prevent ally/player units under from taking ranged damage, while any attempt of melee enemy units entering will result in the swarm damaging them. Or, ally units heals faster under Razor Swarm but enemy units get damage under it.

    It would be very good to use to protect Drones from raids, maybe even destroy the D-8 Charge under the Razor Swarm from Reapers.


    -Psi
     
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    PROTECT-YOUR-NEX New Member

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    I'm really interested to know more about what exactly a Queens role will be. The unit has changed a lot and I don't really even know which unit is in the current version (or the latest one that has been played that is). I guess it is true that more then one can be created now?

    Is it still a defense oriented unit? And is there a limit on them even if you can make more then one? How important are they to Zerg game play, can you be successful without one?
    Hmmmmm
     
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    PsiWarp New Member

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    It is a defensive unit, there is only the supply and resource limit (200 minerals 100 vespene 2 control), they are used to expand the creep or gain extra production with mutant larvae, and yes you can be successful without one.


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    I think the queen should be pushed back to tier 2 when you make the lair and also i think they should give her something interesting instead of razor swarm.

    I would still make one so she can make tumors remember that.
     
  6. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    Why pushed back? I prefer her at tier 1.

    Razor swarm is good because it's the queen's only damaging spell. Plus, it's mobile, so unlike the dark swarm, the enemy can't escape it easily.

    Also, she does make tumors, only they are burrowed and cant be used to make defences.
     
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    If you push her to tier 2, there will be no way to spread the Creep without acquiring a Lair :p

    Creep Tumor complements her, since Creep has become a resource rather than a hindering factor to building Zerg structures. Though, I prefer the Creep Tumor to replicate themselves like before, it felt really Zerg :)


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    Ya i take back what i said the queen is more of a defensive/economy unit and its justified where it is.

    Creep tumors will be very important as the will add to the effectiveness of the base so they are also very important unlike what others have said about them.
     
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    What about something like whenever the queen burows she emits this substance
    in the creep making units under it slow in fire rate and ur units recive the same thing
    only as a bonus fire rate? would that work?

    and wut about razer swarm, is it just like Dark Swarm like in SC1 or dose it do
    anything else as well. and wut spell casters do they have for the Zerg?
    i know the queen can do a few spells but anything else?
     
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    That would be unnecessary since zerg are already 30% faster on creep.

    Razor swarm is not like dark swarm, it damages units under it and you can move it like a unit.
    Both overseers and infestors are spell casters aswell.
     
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    thx:
    that helps a bit

    but isn't it that Zerg only get speed not quicker att?
     
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    Only move speed, god forbid Cracklings with additional attack speed.


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    Zerg still got the tech for cracklings which i read about somewhere.... but no speed ups anymore. The speed up is the creep :) so spread it everywhere!
     
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    What the heck is Cracklings? (r u just saying Zerglings in a different way?)

    and dose the creep speed up the drones? cause then the zerg would be able to get minerals
    a little faster. (is the creep speed thingy an upgrade or u just get it to begin with?)
     
  15. EonMaster

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    cracklings are a starcraft term for zerglings with the speed and adrenal glad upgrades.

    Not sure about the creep sppeding up drones or not. I would guess not since the drones hover above the ground, but idk.
     
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    Creep does not speed up drones, it would mean the drones either harvest faster than the other workers or are slower to explore or expand, either way would not be balanced.
     
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    Glad they don't, since it both doesn't make sense and greatly imbalances the harvest return ratios.

    I wonder what Zerg macro-management mechanic are there...


    -Psi
     
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    It wouldn't greatly imbalance Zerg's harvest return ratio if they decided it should effect Drones as well, it'd just bring them up to the same speed as the other races. Basically, if the Creep bonus doubled your speed, Drones' base speed would simply be changed to being half that of the SCV and Probe.
     
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    Which would therefore make it much harder to scout and expand as drones would be a lot slower than other workers off creep.
     
  20. PsiWarp

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    Exactly. Though, emphasis on the Creep tends to draw attention to this subject :3


    -Psi