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Your Samir Duran Theories here

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by vemynal, May 23, 2007.

Your Samir Duran Theories here

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by vemynal, May 23, 2007.

  1. Fenix

    Fenix Moderator

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    I never got the impression that the Xel'Naga were peaceful....They did create the two most powerful races in the known galaxy :-\

    And that expedition that got pwned by the Zerg was just a science thing.....Pretty easy to kill scientists.

    I'm pretty sure the Xel'Naga have the best ships and biggest guns, and quite possibly hybrid warriors to boot.
     
  2. coalescence

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    The fact that they create a strong race (whats strong? I think that a race is strong when its fit to survive :)) doesn't mean that they're out for war.
     
  3. Fenix

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    Strong to me means that in a wartime situation, barring some catastrophic error, they will come out on top 90% of the time.

    And I never said out for war. And would it seem like war to them, destroying what they created?
     
  4. starcraft2iscoming

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    I found a secret Duran Death File. The Terran one is the first one, the second is the infested Duran one.
     
  5. coalescence

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    No you didn't, but I think you get my drift :)
    Your implying that the fact that you don't see them as a peacefull race is because they created strong races.
    Your definition (at least, what you say here) of strong is the fact that they can stand their ground in a war situation. I think that even a peacefull or pacifist society/race could be strong in a wartime situation. Also, the fact that a race is succesfull in many views (protoss) probably means they can boot it out when it goes wrong yeah. I think that a race that tries to sheperd other race not to use it as a weapon but to help develop isn't really out for war. And the zerg yeah, though luck that the overmind had a agenda of its own.
     
  6. Fenix

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    My definition is not really standing ground, but whupping whatever comes against them.

    Anyway.

    Yeah, the Xel'Naga aren't evil or anything, though I don't like things that play God, but I think even they would get kinda pissed off at the Zerg. Plus, seeing as how they do play God, I don't think they want one of their creations running rampant and killing everything.
     
  7. coalescence

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    Well, if someone attacks them they deserve to get whupped, nothing evil against whupping ;D

    And yeah they should take care of the zerg yeah :)
     
  8. starcraft2iscoming

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    I remeber that they saw the Protoss as a failer, but now i bet there depending on the Protoss to destroy the Zerg, their once "perfect" creation.
     
  9. coalescence

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    Ironic isn't it.
     
  10. reject_666_6

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    The Zerg isn't really that perfect. As a race of war, it is one of the best, but they are all controlled by a single Overmind, who makes decisions that are far from perfect. If the Overmind gets replaced by, let's say, a selfish being with a thirst for power, the Zerg can never rebel against this rule. They're biggest strength becomes their biggest weakness. In essence, the Zerg may have "evolved" and stuff, but they are still essentially the same as when they destroyed the Xel'Naga all those millenia ago.

    The Protoss may have started off weaker, "imperfect" as we may put it, but they have learned through their collective and individual mistakes to become a powerful, honourable and non-aggressive people. The Protoss remaining on Shakuras, even though are few in numbers, are much stronger than the original Protoss were on Aiur. If no peoples attacked each other for another hundred years, the Protoss could obliterate anything in the sector.

    The Terrans are only human. We'll never really know what will become of them, but of all three races, the Terrans have the most persistence and ambition. They have overcome their weak physical powers through ingenuity; in a few thousand years of existance, maybe less than the Protoss, they have come farther than the Protoss have, proportionally. A naked Protoss can rip a naked human in two, but after a few millenia, they're evenly matched, so given enough time the Terrans will rise above all other races and claim victory.

    Rant over.
     
  11. vemynal

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    *is happy his thread is popular^^*
     
  12. Singuris

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    Definatly agree Terrans are very peresistent also they have ingenuity.
     
  13. mc2

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    The only problem is that throughout human history there's never ever been a period of unity. Even with Arcturus's inspirational speech, i still think he shouldn't be emporer.

    The zerg might never look towards technology, but their strength, unity, reproduction rate and determination is to be admired upon (ok just do not admire the killing part). Remember that the Zerg almost wiped out the Protoss and Terrans entirely in the end of Brood War. They are only organic fighters and can even take on the most advanced technologies in the galaxy.
     
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    Oh, gee. So I guess that because they can kill better than the others and are more united killers, they are the "best" race. Killing is not everything life is about. The Zerg fail at life.
     
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    Each individual Zerg creature don't really have an aspiration, nor dreams, nor goals, nor culture or whatsoever. Their sheer reason for existence is to serve the overmind. So yeah you're right they have no life :D.
    The overmind however had the dream of perfecting the gene pool of the swarm, now that's something great. because the overmind is actually looking to better the swarm as a whole.
     
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    The Overmind just got that goal because it absorbed the Xel'Naga's knowledge about the Protoss. If it hadn't done that, it would probably just drift around Zerus forever. :p
     
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    Zerg = mindless killers imo.
     
  18. mc2

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    They are not totally mindless, their thoughts and actions are totally controlled by the Overmind/Cerebrate/Kerrigan. So instead of a mind for each unit, there's a BIG common mind. they can be passive too when the psi disruptor shatters their communication signals.
     
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    Ok I may be tooooootally off here, this is just a complete shot in the dark but:

    I was reading the history of all the races last night (yea I was bored) and in the Protoss history it talks about the dude that reformed the psychic link between all Protoss, whose name was lost but became known as Khas. Now, fast forward to the secret mission and Duran talking to Zeratul:

    I have had many names over the millenia...

    I know, I know, it's just pure speculation. But could you imagine if Duran was the Protoss saviour?!
     
  20. hillzagold

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