Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's Blackhole ability

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

hmmmmm... I like Lemmy's idea. Add that to my idea and you have time to sort of run...

I don't know... I like anti DDay xP

 

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

Well, its not like it can use this ablity frequently or anything. They said in the demo they were giving it extra energy so they could demo its ablities. I mean if it used any right before using blackhole it wouldn't have enough energy and it would be completly drained afterwards making it vunerable to whatever you have left.

 

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

I posted some of my thoughts in the most recent news thread, but I had two ideas:

A) Reduce the radius, as many people suggested.

B) Target a specific enemy unit. Targeted unit is sucked in no matter what, but nearby flyers can see the hole opening on the targeted unit and have time to escape (if their owner moves them). So it's guaranteed to at least knock out one unit, and has the potential to do more damage than that.

 

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

So your saying that anyone would want the mothership if it could only do that week attack? Who doesn't move their units while watching the battle they are in? :-\

 

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

The mothership's ability is actually quite powerful. And moving units that are fighting is a bad idea, because with the exception of the Cobra, they stop attacking when they move and don't retaliate at all.

 

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

Its fine the way it is but they just need to make it were it can destroy your ships as well if your not careful

 

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

It probably does that already.

 

Re: Your opinion on the Protoss Mothership's "Blackhole" ability

Just to clarify, I meant to say that they should do either A or B, not both.

 

I like ninerman13's B idea, and was actually thinking about something not terribly far from it.

Here's mine: The unit(s) at or near the vortex (regardless of whether or not it's target-only) would get the full force, and units just outside of the kill zone would be either slowly sucked in or damaged over time.

 

nah, its a block hole everything within the radius should be suck.

so just make the AOE small.

a mothership is hard to obtain(top of techtree) and is risky to have too, and the research of the black hole would be costly and long, thus it is just fair to have this ability take all out all airships within the AOE. building a mothership should be worth it.

and also by the time you have the mothership plus the black hole ability, your enemy will have max cap units too (unless they are noob and you are just toying them) consisting of strong air or ground units or mix of both units and powerful spells ready to counter the mothership. so not imba.

 

i would say nerf it however since we dont know what zerg has in store or the entire specs of terrans its would be hard to say its imbalanced for all we know nukes might be more efficient... for example black hole can be used once since there will be only one mothership per protoss and has a huge cool down time... while you can build couple of nuclear reactors and set up multiple nukes at one time. And who knows it might be easy to micro around so that u can minimize the effects of black hole by spliting your forces? because we know that thor has a weakness by microing your units around the back dunno just a thought.

 

keep it and maybe balance it a little bit

 

i think its pretty much fine the way it is, but of course it could always use some balancing.

 

A neat idea but needs ballancing. Like it didn't look like the battle cruisers could even get out of it. Or some kind of marker like launching a nuke. (Red dot)

 

I think the Mothership should have the possibility of being sucked into its own Blackhole if used too close. I can imagine the noobs now. And yes this would happen with the nerfed Blackhole, only needs a nerf, nothing less nothing more.

Noob: Here's my 1337 pwnzr mothership. Prepare to die!
Me: Here's my fleet.
Noob: Blackhole!
Noob uses Blackhole ability and then moves his MS into it.
Me: Wow...
Noob: WTF HAXOR I WANT MY MOTHERSHIP BACK...
Me: Your Blackhole consumed it not mine. Can I introduce you to my Fleet?
Noob:Nooo!!... *Smashes head into computer screen*
;D Death by Stupidity. Classic. ;D

 

I really think its rather Overpowered right now. I mean think end game. Where you make a lot of air units, maybe even a 2v2, 3v3 game where there are even more air units, and than here comes a mother ship sucking everything...Its really not fair to be able to kill 100+ supply worth of army with one click no matter how situational.

 

idk, i think it will be a perfect ability to have bacuase it cost alot of energy like they said, they had to cheat to get enough energy, so if they balance it out like that it will be fine. AND i dont think it affects ground units so you just need to worry about air units