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What would the Christian symbol be if Jesus was shot?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ItzaHexGor, Sep 21, 2008.

What would the Christian symbol be if Jesus was shot?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ItzaHexGor, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. Meee

    Meee New Member

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    That's all good, but I don't remember stating my beliefs anywhere in this topic, just opinions regarding the symbol, which is what we're discussing
     
  2. ItzaHexGor

    ItzaHexGor Active Member

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    @ Wlck. You sure crucifixion's been outlawed? I seem to recall hearing it's been used more recently than the 4th century. Regardless, I doubt the same would have happened to nooses. They were so much quicker, more practical and less spacious than crucifixion, especially for their time.

    @ Meee. This was what I was referring to.
    Even if you weren't saying it in order to state your beliefs, it's stated as though it's a fact, which was what I was commenting on. I didn't mean for it to become a big thing, which was why I tried to clarify it simply. That's all. It wasn't supposed to become the main focus of the conversation.

    So back on topic, do you think the Christian symbol doesn't have any impact on Christianity and how it's viewed?
     
  3. Meee

    Meee New Member

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    It may have some impact on how it's viewed but I don't think using different method would change what kind of impact it is. It symbolises Jesus dying for our sins (again, Christianity), it would only have a different impact if that was changed. With different method used to kill him (noose, gunshot etc) it still has the same meaning.
     
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    Wlck742 New Member

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    @Itza: Constantine I outlawed it in the 4th century. It's been used after that, but much less commonly.
     
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    Darktemplar_L New Member

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    Well, ItzaHexGore, your signature seems to contradict what you said to me.

    First of all, I want to say that the cross is not a symbol of Christianity, it's just a cross. Haven't you seen those cartoons where they use a cross for a vampire or demon? Yet, what makes the cross so powerful? It's not like God sprinkled holy water on every single cross in the whole world. It's just that Jesus died on a cross, that's all. Say if Jesus died from a knife, mayeb the symbol would be Jesus with a knife through his heart? And then instead of cartoons using the cross to ward off bad things, they would use a knife?

    Edit: Oh man, I love yahoo answers... The people are so creative:
    By someone named "SkepticalBob":

    "In professing a belief in religion, a person admits to endorsing a stunted version of the scientific method.

    Remember this from school?:
    1. Problem
    2. Hypothesis
    3. Experiment
    4. Conclusion.

    Scientists really do use that. Religion, unlike science, works like this:

    1. Problem.
    2. Hypothesis...

    And that's it. Stick with the hypothesis no matter what. No testing. No experiments.

    Experimenting separates witch doctors from 21st century civilization."
     
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  6. ItzaHexGor

    ItzaHexGor Active Member

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    @ Meee. Just because two symbols symbolise the same thing, it definitely does not mean that each would be received in the same way, especially by those who are unfamiliar with it.

    @ Wlck. I doubt the same would have happened to the noose. Anyone of power, yet alone the son of god, being crucified would have been a very powerful and long-lasting image, which simply would not have been portrayed if he was hung.

    @ Darktemplar_L. That was a joke by Fenix when he tried to bring some sense to my username... It was funny so I made it my sig. Did you seriously think I was a self-proclaimed mythical mathematical based entity? :p

    Anyway, back on topic. In all those cartoons and Medieval-type shows, movies, books, etc, etc, etc, the cross they use to repel the vampires, daemons, etc, etc, is powerful because it's the Christian symbol. It's supposed to be like the power of god purging the vampires' or daemons' souls of Satan. So yeah, it's not the cross that's supposed to be powerful, it's the symbol of Christianity that's supposed to be powerful.
     
  7. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    he is not saying that the symbol could be anything, but that when it is a gun, the meaning wouldnt change much
     
  8. SmoothBore

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    Well the cross is different from a gun in symbolic meaning in that it represents a more lasting, prostrate suffering, than just getting capped. I don't think the Christian religion could have just anything that was responsible for killing jesus as its symbol. If he died eating a bad piece of cheese, the symbol wouldn't be a piece of cheese.