Thor

Artillery, by definition, is not something that you carry along with you on the front lines. So anything other than "'stay-away-from-fight-artillery'" is contradictory. Technically, it should be miles behind advancing troops, pummeling enemy resistance as their forces advance, so I don't think it should be a big problem keeping it away from the enemy (I mean, if you are attacking with a Thor, I'd assume you have the forces to protect it as well)

The siege tank is gonna be a multi-purpose troop support and siege weapon, and the Thor will primarily be a siege weapon, I think.

 

As useless as it'll be in Melee or Singleplayer Thor is gonna be f**king cool in UMS.

 

Since it is constructed by SCVs, is it considered a structure?

Would it take population?

And how much do you think it would cost?

I'm assuming for balance issues it take pop.
And does 300/250 sound about right?

 

I doubt it'd be a structure, and it would probably take about 10 pop, as far as resources go though, id suspect they'd make it cost about twice as much as a battlecruiser

 

10 pop is too much imo, and 800/600 ? Thats too much as well

I would rather have 5 siege tanks

 

lol, true, i suppose you would only build it so that you can say you have one, lol, not very cost effective.
How about 500/300 and takes 6 or 7 pop?

 

I'm thinking it would take 6 pop. A mothership already takes up 10 pop... so 6 is reasonable.

 

Actually the mothership takes 8 supply currently, i think the thor will take anything from 4 to 6.

 

No it's not a structure, it a unit.

If the MS is currently taking 8 SP then I guess the thor will take 4-5 SP and will cost 1/4 of a MS.

 

since it takes a while for thor to turn around can u attack him from behind and not get hurt by him?

plague his ass

 

^i really hope plague comes back. except for when im not playing zerg

thors are gonna kick complete ass, just as long as they are facing the right way

 

The big question is, can we load the thor in a dropship

 

i really, truly doubt it.

 

I really don't think their is the slightest chance. I mean, it's built as a building and is larger than a missile turret! (right?) But it would be siccccccckkkkkkk if you could get like 2 or 3 banshees and get them to airlift it! It would be the big thing that breaks all sieges, no matter what, like in LotR at Minas Tirith and that enormous battering ram called Gromm or whatever...it came up and all the elves and humans were like "F***. We just got pwned. GG."

 

yeah, its bigger than a missile turret. i think its close to the size of a barracks.

 

The siege tank aint small either, and the dropship carried 2 in SC1

The shuttle also carried 2 reavers, overlord carried 2x ultralisks.

RIGHT!?

 

The siege tank wasn't built like a building though, it was still built in the factory

 

Well, why would it matter, if it moves?

We're talking about size, if you build a unit thats ultimately mobile, like thor, regardless of the way its built, it should be able to get in the drop ship, if its size allows it.

The siege tank, or any other mechanical unit for that matter, is built the same way, only inside the factory as opposed to outside.I dont see a huge deal.

 

My contention is that you have to recognize that it isn't like any other unit, and that special considerations will be taken into account. IF - and I think that's a big "if" - dropships can carry them, I think it will/should be 1 per ship. It would be much more efficient to load up units into the dropship, fly them to where you want, and take an SCV with you. Deploy units, establish defensive perimeter and have the SCV build the Thor on site. I mean, it's a siege unit, first and foremost. They didn't transport fully assembled trebuchets across the Mediterranean for the Crusades, they assembled them when they got to wherever they were sieging. I think it will be the same way with Thors.

 

the thor is as big as the building that makes dropships, so it really shouldnt fit.

and the seige tank is about 1/4 the size of the thor. you cant really compare the two.