Thor

2 dropships cost quite a bit as well and if one of them gets shot down then the thor will crashing down to the earth

 

On the other hand, you are now comparing the size of the thor with the size of the dropship, but I don't think blizzard will give a ****. Remember that 2 siege tanks/reavers/ultralisks fitted a dropship, which were all bigger than the dropship.

 

good point, but then a siege tank isn't that big, but fitting 2 ultralisk's in a overlord would be funny to watch lol


V: exactly

 

i agree that the 2 siege tanks/reavers/ultralisks are bigger than a dropship, but the difference is not as humongous as the thor so people could unwillingly overlook it then forget about it. some how most people just couldn't bare the thought of fitting a thor into a dropship

 

I think the hooks idea would be the best... people will be able to transport it and it would not look too unrealistic....o and the dropships shouldn be able to carry units while moving the thor for balance reasons

 

Well it's quite possible that the Thor could simply be allowed to be picked up by the Dropship.

Since when has the Dropship only had 4 spaces in SC2? Source??

But barring simply allowing the Thor to be transported(which in my opinion is way more potentially imbalanaced than allowing it to lift off) it would be a better idea to institute an upgrade for lifting off. It simply doesn't make sense that a unit that is a building, can't simply have the same technology that buildings do and can't float slowly. It's a lot more of a balance that the unit has to fly slowly and is completely exposed to enemy fire.

And loading them in dropships and/or salvage and rebuild will still allow for players to utilize cliffs with the Thor, so those arguments really don't carry much weight. This idea of the Thor liftoff has been discussed a number of times, and there's no real "salvage" solution. Either its too expensive to salvage it or its too cheap. If it's 75% salvage, you might as well just build a new one most of the time, and 85% is probably too much to discourage disassembly.

 

Well the salvage option would rewuire SCVs and allow the enemy to destroy it during "reassembly". That opportunits doesn´t exist with Lift-off.

 

Should the thor be able to 'attack'? at the same time

 

salvage is what you can do when you want your minerals back
you sell the building and you get you minerals back

i think you send a scv to the building and it disassemble (?) the building and you get your minerals back

 

The idea of liftoff is that it would be extremely vulnerable, just like a building would be, once in the air.

It would be unable to attack and its armor would be reduced to 0, just like a building. It would also be much slower-moving.

In my opinion it would be easier to kill or disable a floating Thor than to try to destroy one being salvaged.

 

but it would quash the idea of thor having limited mobility, if it can just reposition itself by lifting off. a sound effect if it lands close to any of your units, a warning like when nukes are fired, or it being immobile after landing (for a set amount of time, of course) would be required to keep this concept.

 

I've said a couple of times that it would be fine if it had a "transform" stage, where for 1-5 seconds it unfolds itself so as to be able to walk. Takes a while to transform.

But even if it didn't it's not like anyone who is paying attention is going to have Thors land solo in their base and pwn them. At the very least you would have to establish a position with other units before trying that...

 

Floating thors are kinda......stupid.

You wanna pay an extra 100minerals to fit those hover pads into Thors? (Look how buildings float. They have hover pads/ flying pads. Except the starbase) You are simply nuts. It's just better not to use a Thor in minor islands.

And that's not really fair, because Thors can act like siege tanks and smash down the back of the base with much more ease. A siege tank has stop for a long while to get into position. A thor can simply walk into position. Giving it flyer abilities would just tilt it towards slightly OP.

 

the problem with liftoff isn't that it'll attack with it, but that it'll reposition. cliffs or islands that a thor never should be able to get to unless built there now become accessable.

 

But conversely the Thor is now stuck. Sure it can attack, but it has absolutely no support in positions like that. And by the time the research is complete I would hope any sane player would have the ability to drop units in to counter the Thor.

Finally, I think a major part of countering the Thor is going to be "bypassing" the unit itself and taking out softer targets while only slowly taking the Thors down at opportune moments. I don't see this unit as being an "OMFG I HAVE TO STOP IT NOW" type of unit...

 

Those types of units are called heroes.

 

Well... not exactly... that "type" of unit would be a faster moving and hard hitting unit. Battlecruisers and Carriers would usually fall into this category. Reavers + Shuttle does as well since it's hard hitting and speedy. Lurkers, etc...

These are all SC1 examples.

 

where have you been this past month? shuttles, vikings, reapers, air units, any of these could support the thor

all the while getting shot at by the thor? the thor's weaknesses really only show when alone.

 

Which is exactly what it would be on a cliff.

I'm assuming at this point that Blizzard isn't going to allow the Thor to be picked up by the Dropship. That just doesn't make any sense. Except from the point of how attractive it would be to destroy the Dropship with the Thor inside....

 

quick question , will we be able to cable tie down the thor like an AT_AT walker ? i think that would be cool