Thor

Maybe we should try it from another angle. In wich situations would you use the flight ability of the Thor?

 

Island maps and for crossing AROUND terrain possible controlled by the enemy. Just use it to move your Thor outside your base, etc. I'm not talking about combat flight in any way.

Or when you've destroyed a base and now need to leave it, but there's no exit because you built the Thor just for this purpose. You can now lift off and fly to a piece of ground with more room to maneuver.

Heck, you could even include that it COULD take off to avoid melee units. That doesn't mean it's stronger against them for any reason, because now it can't fire. Yes, it could wait for reinforcements, but now the range is closed and its possible your Thor might not be able to land since units could very well be underneath him.

BTW, I've seen the speed with which Terran buildings move now. The Thor would need to be MUCH slower than that. Similar to the building speed in SC1. Basically a sitting duck while in the air.

 

to get from one island to another in an island map/ space platform map so that he could actually be effective in those games.

 

On the space plattform maps i think there will always be a passage to the next platform, and on island maps i think there will be a connection between the large islands. Because who would want to construct the thor on the very small islands?

 

I think thats the main issue why people are for a way to move the Thor.

I would use Flight among the other reasons mainly to gain the upper ground and to attack from the flank, using the 250mm on vital buildings instead of static defenses.
With flight I don´t have to worry about Terrain obstacles that would otherwise prevent a flanking with the Thor.

 

mebbe flight could work like spider mines, you can only use it like two times

 

I don't see why it's such an overpowered ability. It's not like the thing isn't gonna move like a snail.

I'd actually personally LOVE for an opponent to lift it off. It'd be a sitting duck. The armor is removed (like a building). It would be absolutely a piece of cake to take it out. It wouldn't be able to fire back, etc.

That's why it was so awesome in SC1 to force buildings to take off. It was a lot easier to kill them.

 

I have a suggestion/request: Since this thread and the Thor discussion thread both seem to be revolving around the Thor mobility issue (flight) I think these two topics should be merged. After all this is technicly just a subset of the other discussion.

 

I think they're technically too long to be merged.

Both are more than 5 pages.... Then we'd just have one big 10 page thread. Just gotta let it slide :-\

 

Well thats fine but at the very least the topic of flight should remain contained to one thread. Shuffleing between them is a pain.

ANYWHO
Flight would be a good idea for island maps but it should be as slow as SC1 buildings for balance purposes and should be unable to fire.

 

That's the general suggestion of my last 10-20 posts on these TWO threads lol.

 

and a copy of the last several suggestions on the other thread.

Hows about we get back to the topic the thread was started on:
SALVEGING THE THOR

I say no.

 

making the mothership a super unit doesnt have to be imbalanced,thats completely true,because everything can be balanced. the thing with mothership in my opinion is that a super unit doesnt fit in this game. i know it is exciting and such,and even thought it can be balanced i see serious problems in multiplayer with several motherships in game,and my mainly concern is that my mental concept of starcraft is not guided in the way of superunits. if you ask me,some basic units like marines and such are becoming obsolete for the massive firepower that new high tech units are able to deploy. for an example: thors mega-attack, battlecruisers plasma-rain, carriers, mothersips, and a long etc. (and we still have to wait for the uber-zerg,which i expect to be something like a giant brain with 3 legs who shoots peas with the size of a building) (sarcasm)

 

the one thing i didnt like about starcraft was that the top tier units were so weak compared to first tier, ultralisks and battlecruisers were so easily taken down by weaker units for less cost. Sc2 is going in a good direction, with units like the collosus and thor that will absolutely munch weak units, but can be countered by second teir units effectively.

 

well i dont agree with you.if units are obsolete in late game situations,your number of strategies will be reduced.i mean,marines and medics were good even late game to defend tanks from zealots and such.thats an example of a unit that as the game progressed lost influence but still got its role,a reduced one,but wasnt redundant.

 

Can thors attack air units? they should

 

No they can't and they shouldn't.

 

^ Didnt the thor have a weak air attack?
Dunno if they changed that but last time i checked they had

 

yes the thor has an air attack, and its not branded as weak, by far anything i heard.

 

It has it? How come I've never seen it?