Thor+Viking effective?

A problem with that strategy. In the trailers of the game, they explained about the Thor, and showed a bunch of those bike like machines, they are faster in turning then the Thor. So you just send a couple of those against the Thor, while a couple of ships or Goliath like units attack the Viking. That would be a good defense against those two.

 

ah... those units a.k.a cobra got cut and is currently replaced by the Hellion,. that tactic is really questionable in my view coz the way the vikings fair on the ground is not that domininat unlike before with goliaths and tanks + vultures... but im sure it can be done with support probably from the repair ship unit and perhaps some hellions to prevent clusters of enemys while you are deployed with your tanks.. lol, this was a total diff tactic, anyway thor + viking sounds like a medieval pair eh?? maybe it could be the best combo for anti air...

 

Maybe, you never know.

 

Yes he will, I think, if he buys it then he will find out.

 

wasn't the special thing about the cobra is its ability to attack when moving

 

Its not so special since logically its supposed to be normal eh?

look forest im running!! bang bang!

 

Firstly, the Hellion can't make an attack on the move. It can be attacking on the move though, meaning that after the attack has been issued, you can put it in motion while the flamethrower still is firing.

Secondly, the current Thor turns faster than the old Thor.

 

Zergling, Roach and Baneling trap!

1 Thor 2 Vikings
They walk across the land scouting around waiting for the Science Vessel instanly 10 baneling pop up and then 20 Zerglings followed by 5 Roaches.

Costs
Zerglings: 1000 Minerals
Roaches: 500 Minerals
Banelings: somewhere between 700-900 Min if the cost 50 plus zergling and about 450-500 Gas

 

Net Cost: 500 Minerals, 400 Vespene Gas

Also note that until you have multiple Thors, you can't exploit their ability to absorb damage in a disabled state while still retaining your anti-armored firepower.

Actually its 500. Zerglings are one of the few units that the Thor sucks against anyway, and Viking lacks the kind of firepower to handle them en masse, Hellions would be better.

Thor could kill them all unassisted with ease

Actually about 750 Minerals, seeing as they don't cost gas anymore. If they don't ambush, half of them get wiped out before getting within range and doing about half damage to the Thor. Even if they all get through, they still only disable the Thor, who recovers via mechanical rebirth.

Between the Comsat, a Nighthawk being with any large Terran force, and the Viking being able to take off, it will be hard to kill it with banelings.

 

Absolutely.
The Hellion is built from the Factory, The Viking is built from the Starport.
The Hellion is faster, cheaper, and still does more damage: 12 +6 vs light compared to the Viking's 10.
...And that's not even mentioning its splash.

There's no real choice you have to make...

 

Not really. The Thor has two units it sucks against, capital ships and swarms of light units. Vikings are effective against capital ships, and are perhaps the only unit that is, and they are also decent against light units, though not in large swarms. Hellions can handle light units consistently, but have no use against capital ships, and lack the flexibility that the Viking's air-ground capacity grants.

The only light units that cause trouble for Vikings anyways are the Zerglings and Marines. Hydras and Zealots they can handle.

 

Of course I am not generally comparing the Hellion to the Viking, they fill very different purposes. I was just comparing them in the context of countering Zerglings, and to an extent Roaches, Hydras and Banelings (with the help of a little micro I think a Hellion is fast enough to kite a Baneling - Atleast before the Baneling upgrades speed.)

 

Mass Zerglings
Mass Marines
____||____
Dead Thor + Vikings
Dead Zerglings/Marines = Hellions
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Gathered info
Thor + Hellions + Vikings = Pwnage
Thor + Hellions + Vikings + SCVs = lasting Pwnage

 

=perfect target for nuke/DT raid/mutli Neural parasite

Your loss in resources would be ridiculous.

 

ok


Mass Zerglings
Mass Marines
____||____
Dead Thor + Vikings
Dead Zerglings/Marines = Hellions
______________________________
Gathered info
Thor + Hellions + Vikings = Pwnage + Infestor = possible loss of units
Thor + Hellions + Vikings + SCVs = lasting Pwnage + Infestor = Possible loss of units
Thor + Hellions + Vikings + SCVs + Science Vessel = lasting pwnage added to abilitys + Infestor = Slim chance of possible loss of units

 

Vikings kill Banelings in two shots, but they have a faster fire rate and better range, as well as an emergency GTFO option if the Banelings take them by surprise.

Thors kill Zerglings/Banelings in 1 shot, Roaches/Hydras in 2.

 

both combined would be a deadly combintion vs the terran because the zerg and protoss and too quick and from seeing vids on both of them they just dont look quick enough, thor is a walking tank and the viking isnt that great in the air so wasting minerals for both doesnt seem worth it