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The Fate of our future...The UED

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by concreteasflesh, Jul 5, 2007.

The Fate of our future...The UED

  1. AnArchY

    AnArchY New Member

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    Your description maybe? The UED killed 400,000 criminals, many of them, from the description of the events seemed to be simply branded as such, but I'm sure a good number of them were in fact prisoners of the worst kind. Secondly that was the UPL, I don't recall if there is something stating if they are really the same institution but with a new name, but it is a new organization and the mass murders, in the state the Earth most likely was, was well something to perhaps to be considered given the context, we're well on our way to being vastly overpopulated, and a united earth flying a single banner certainly wouldn't help stall that overpopulation.

    I hope the UED returns, or that it is in some form rebuilt by Stukov using the UED remnants in the sector and some of the connections he has built up during his short time in the sector. If a proper 2nd wave is sent from Earth rather than Stukov rebuilding a new army, or hell maybe both, then I'd say it should arrive somewhere during the last episode, where they don't really have enough time to win but a few decisive battles and set something up for a sequel that will come 10-15 years later. Basically they arrive, do some serious work, but it is work running parallel to whatever is the main struggle that has been building in the first two installations, or perhaps they come in and help turn the tide, and then go on to conquer the sector.
     
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    the fact is that we're not sure what amount of the people they banished were actually criminals and how many were just different thinkers. It has been stated that there are quite a few religious colonies in the sector, but then again, the criminals could also have been religious and taught their children their religion, so that wouldn't have to be just because of banished religious people. There is a pretty low amount of cyborgs in the sector, i think the only one we see with permanent implants is the advisor in the terran campaign. If the psionics are descendants from the mutants however, they are a lot more prevalent. Still, no clear info about the exact proportions of criminals, religious activisists, mutants and cyborg.

    also, the world didn't unite until the formation of the UED, after the protoss and zerg invasions.
     
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    "I hope the UED returns, or that it is in some form rebuilt by Stukov using the UED remnants in the sector"

    Why would they trust Stukov? He's dead. (Well, not really, but would you trust a man who came back from the dead by being infested by the zerg?) I hope Blizzard uses him, but in a realistic role.

    According to the SC1 manual, the UPL controlled most of the world, except for some parts of Latin America. The complete unification (in which they became the UED) was a relatively minor change, as far as I can tell.

    Some of the banished criminals were, in fact, criminals (eg "tech-pirates") but others were banished for breaking various laws that wouldn't be considered valid in today's society. It's hard to say how many of the original colonists or the bulk of the victims of Project Purification would be classified as "criminals".
     
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    UED troopers as hireable mercenaries!! Now wont that be cool? You choose a mission to save some UED survivors and then they are unlocked as mercenaries you hire on the Hyperion. Can even have a UED officer join the crew and stab you in the back.

    Have them as the most expensive but the best and toughest mercs you can buy in the campaign
     
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    Best-trained I can see, but the toughest? Doubtful.

    I think the Koprulu Sector terrans have been killing each other longer than those on Earth.
     
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    That's something none of the UED fans here seem to accept or admit is written in SC lore.. ironic hey?

    I'm willing to make a strong bet that the confirmed remains of the UED forces we'll meet in the SC2 campaign will tell us how better off they perfer not being in the UED anymore, you watch.
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    well, at least they appeared as mercenaries.


    On the subject of the UED, I just realized something; Stukov is a ghost. The UED killed or banned all the psionics and mutants they could find, back when they were the UPL. Psionics should be a lot less advanced on earth then in the Koprulu-sector, and considering the confederacy only had about 600 ghosts at its prime, there should be next to no people with a PI of 6 or higher on Earth. However, the UED still has access to ghosts. Could this mean that the UED has its own psychic breeding programme, or maybe access to Khaydarin crystals or terrazine gas?
     
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    Maybe the UED just has fewer ghosts, or maybe they're weaker psychics, or more likely both?

    In the Ghost Academy manga, Aal Cistler has a PI of only 4.5 (he can't even read minds) but can still operate a cloaking device.

    And as for Stukov, while he's probably a psychic, I suspect that (pre-infestation, anyway) he was only as strong as a wrangler.
     
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    That would make a tad of sense. It would still signify a MAJOR change in attitude over at Earth, having a psychic, not only accepted in society, but as one of their military higher-ups. It seems like something changed in their divine interpretation of the common human.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised. Stukov was already a major leader, so I doubt it was the threat of the protoss that did it. I suppose the new government simply "mellowed" with age.

    Also, telepathy is a weapon too valuable to be thrown away. I would have expected something like the Psi Corps.