The Fate of our future...The UED

If the UED send an actual attack force to the Korpulu Sector, it'd be game over for everyone.

Personally, I think it's mutually assured destruction, StarCraft style. The UED would obliterate Protoss and Terran alike with sheer numbers, and the fact that man for man doesn't count for **** when they have a cloud of Battle Cruisers in the air waiting to carve chunks off the planet.

I also like what you're telling me about UED stealing Korpulu tech. Thank God, I thought they were just sucking. Go my favorite planet! Even though most of them depicted in SC are assholes.

The only 'victory' the Korpulu Sector would ever have against the fabled 'full brunt' of the UED is if the Zerg helped... But it's likely that the Zerg would wait until both forces were done throwing their punches and move in for the double kill. I still think the Zerg have enough numbers to take on any force.

 

Something makes me doubt it. The UED could only send a fraction of their force that far; perhaps a much bigger force than in Brood War, but still not their full strength. They don't have strategic surprise or a Psi Disrupter, either. I really can't see them beating the 10 billion Zerg (most are warriors) and that's just Char; there's more Zerg on a few other planets at least (such as Aiur).

But what's important is the motivation. Why would the UED attack? That's just provoking enemies for no good reason. There's no good political reason to try to dominate the Terran colonies, and there's no reason for the Zerg or Protoss to go to Earth.

 

Blizzard agrees with JudicatorPrime. During one of the panels at last year's BlizzCon, one of the developers (I think it was Chris Metzen) stated that the only reason the UED used Korpulu Sector units was that it was too much work to give them a whole new set of units. It was admitted that it was a "flaw" in the lore- only partially patched up by the fact that it was supposed to be a small taskforce, etc. If actual earth-tech had been used, the Terrans would make quite a mess.

There are over 10 billion Zerg, yes, but if a tiny fraction of the Terran race, with technological and infrastructural development hundreds of years behind earth, can more-or-less hold its own against the Zerg and Protoss.... The human population by that point would be well over 10 billion, and they would have populated other planets, developed more kinds of technology. It would be like Protoss strength with Zerg numbers.

That said- you do have a good point, Kimera: this conflict is happening on the other side of the galaxy: why would they even bother?

 

I still stand by the fact that the estimate of Human population is only if we were to grow and not be disrupted by any circumstances. I think that if we were to consider the innumerable amount of things that could happen to humanity the ease of making that occur to make the UED force believable would be very easy.

Also as has been stated you are correct. The UED most likely do have superior technology. However, they may not have superior weapon technology. That is an assumption and since there is still a rebel faction on Earth I'm not fully convinced they developed the weapon industry that much.

The Terran however have been developing weaponry just for space warfare. And in fact we have to consider the effect of Protoss technology on the Terran Empire.

Truth be told. A lot of factors come into play. We can speculate until we are all blue in the face, but unless Blizzard gives us specific lore we really don't know.

 

Earth is not dead. One major UED fleet was destroied, and no one made it back to earth. But messages regretting the defeat was sended back to earth (e.g.Gerard DuGalle sended on last mail to his wife b4 he died) so the people on earth knows what is going on. If the earth fleet wasn't strong at the BW, you can bet that it will be strong by the time of SC2.

That said, I would love to play as Zerg and siege the Solar System. A battle in the Saturn 's rings would be awesome.

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Gerard_DuGalle

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/UED

 

The big quote in question:

So apparently the UED have much farther advanced technology than the Terrans. The only real technological advancement the Terrans have over the UED is in the use of psionic technology - something that wasn't discovered by the UED until Brood War. But really, even if the Zerg were to launch a massive attack on Earth, they'll be slaughtered by the "uber tachyon lasers."

 

You guys do realize that the UED did have complete control over the situation until Kerrigan Manipulated the other factions into teaming up with her and helping her regain complete control over the zerg, thus she became strong enough with the help of her makeshift allies to destroy the majority of the UED, Combining that with the death of the second in command, The ued had a completely understandable loss

 

i know a better excuse for blizzard: The UED didnt want their tech to fall in the hands of the terrans

@dusty: all losses in SC are understandable

i think the UED military should be the complete opposite recruitment system of the Terrans, the soldiers are a part of active social live, or at least, the people think that. The terran soldiers are like those in Alien(all the people we saw use guns effectively were criminals), and then the UED soldiers are like those in Starship Troopers. prepared subtly their whole life; Sign up ads on TV all the time. Soldiers servings as examples for children, news reports on military actions every day, of course with the soldiers being the heroes, disecting zerg corpses at high school. Molding people's minds so 99% of the people think being a soldier is a bright glorious future.

 

UED =/= Terrans? Don't you mean the Dominion?

 

terrans as in korpula sector humans.

 

If the UED truly makes it in SC2 (I'm sure they will in one of the packs), they'll bring the Tachyon lasers with them. And the BFG900. And the Spartan Laser.


Just imagine a UED Marine- equivalent to the Spartans from Halo. Nukes would be a fraction of power compared to the UED's Thermonuclear Warheads. I can't wait for the UED' Warcruiser, with it's own Automatic Rapid-Fire Yamato Gun.


Yes, I'm imagining, but you all have to agree it's as cool as hell.

 

Fix't.

Seriously. Halo is lame. Halo Spartans are weak. Quit compairing them to everything. Ever.

 

i feel you man, and i hope will return in the 4th expansion to save the universe. xp

 

The UED is in Korpula space to investigate the 3 factions in order to create the greatest videogame ever known to mankind.

...Zerglings might make great pets if you neutered and trained them?

A few ideas that are more realistic:

Could be that they are running out of planets to colonize. Space is big but there only so many habital planets. Does most everyone in the Milky Way live under a dome? Yes terra-forming is a popular science fiction mechanic, but how long does would that take? More importantly those 2 ideas seem way too trite for Blizzard to use. Then again maybe the running out of worlds idea has been done to death too.

The UED clearly has always had a military. Stukov and Dugale didn't just apply for a newly posted job on monster.com. Why do they have it if the Earth is united? Are they fighting baddies at home? Another brand new race? Cool, but I doubt it. I would venture the ruling members of the UED top brass need some sort of propaganda of a fierce threat in order to justify their over blown military that is only really in place to keep any sort of threat to their power in check.

They may truly fear the Zergs' rapid and rabid expansion. Human population may match that of the Zerg, but Humans have had a hell of a lot more time. Probable IMO, yet terribly boring.

They may fear the Korpula Terrans. If the Terrans won the war with Protoss and Zerg they would have some nice spoils of war. Like the Protoss marvel of warp technology. Add some psionicly controlled Zerg to with that. As I recall the Terrans did not exactly leave on what you call good terms.

And last, my favorite.
Maybe the Xel' Naga have ties with Earthlings. The Xel' Naga don't seem to have much of a military to deal with their wayward children, but what if they knew someone that did. Us. The entire human race could be the first attempt at purity of form and essence. No one else finds it odd that psionic abilities pop up in some humans and all protoss? Not to mention Nexus=pyramid. You may consider the idea of aliens building the pyramids in Egypt to be crackpot but you have to admit it is apart of popculture. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard went that way. Yes, I have mentioned this theory in other posts, dammit I like it. Terrans have always seemed so "oh hey, there's some more guys over here without much reason for it" to me. Why were the UED even introduced in BW if there wasn't a grandiose reason for it? A big connection. Also as so many of us speculate that Duran is working on the hybrids for the Xel' Naga; how did he exactly meet them?

 

i find on one page,i dont know where,that not all of UED fleet was destroyed, it's been belived that at least 7 battlecruisers and few support ships surived as last remnant of UED in korpulu sec, planet is abaddon,but its also say that can and cant be a right information that those ships are on edge of kropulu sec, waiting for help ,ocourse hidden from both terran and zerg,

also say that UED battleforce is only a small portion of enitre UED fleet, at least 125-130 battlecruisers and at least same number of support ships., now this can be true or mybe is only fan made.,

if this true the power of UED can be in thousands of battlecruisers and other ships.,

 

sorry for double post, this is a story that i made conecting the UED fleet in korpulu sec

"in time when zerg invade korpulu sec,Earth is been on verge of power.,secretly watch what colonies do,after finding about zerg and protoss, newly formed UED want to conquer all terran colonies and zerg if possible.,many admirals want that fleet bee large invasion force with 300-400 ships,but admirals Mellosi and Torres want small but still good force ,they choice is 125 battlecrusiers with at least that much support ship, UED command excepted the plan,and in place of fleet is set admiral Gerard DuGalle, one of best admirals in fleet.,as 125 ships is only a small percent of fleet 2% of entire fleet,they belived it will not get UED in danger if they send it so far.

Gerard choise to to be his second is viceadmiral stukov,old frend who serve with him for a long time..

(in game brood war both stukov and Dugalle give command to player who is in role of captain-this is mini biography of that capitan)

Capitan Tagen is third in command in UED exp fleet.,his role in fight against dominion ,zerg and protoss is very important(broodwar)
Cap Tagen is comand the UED ship Pathfinder -ship that is builded only 2 weeks before departure for korpulu, its first Tagen comand, as he served as first officer aboard Deliverance and later after ship go to mars shipyard to be refitet as one of ships that will also go to korpulu,Tagen is given a new ship, (i speak only names of ships,ocourse you know that all are battlecruisers,support ships wil be say),

Entire fleet start they 6month journy to korpulu sec ,after they come for few days UED fleet only observe,after flagship Alexander make his first attack with captured zergs,,(now we will get on end of broodwar),

in the end last fight is been with dominion fleet,protoss against the kerrigan forces, some say there is been 73 UED ships in fight and sombody only 53(UED caputred atleast 18 fuctional battlecruisers and 2 in build), after terrible defeat only 12 ships including flagship Alexander survive,but 7 more surivive also,those ships are been to damaged during the fight ore simply not participate in fight, after zerg destroy all remaining UED ships(alexander group),UED fleet is finaly been crushed,but what kerrigan,and dominion not know is that 7 ships badley damaged still are in neiborhood, cpt.Tagans Pathfinder become a flagship of UED remnant,as he set his forces on planet abaddon,he menange to aquire 2 more battlecruisers from mercenaries, his plan is to take all survived UED personal who are not catch by dominion or killed by zerg and lead them back to Earth,but not before he kill kerrigan.,to avenge death of admiral DuGall and his comrands ., this is not complited yet so i apologize for bad story for now and my bad eng,

i set names for survive UED ships,and also for two addon shps, Pathfinder,Triton, Stalker,Atacama,Ironclad,Novalis,Ravenger,Termagant,Inferno

 

There's no official mention of how many ships survived the massacre, we just know none made it back to Earth.

The UPL was involved in at least one war. (Note that the UPL became the UED almost immediately before Brood War; Stukov, DuGalle and the rest were all former UPL members.)

 

offical no,but non offical 125,,ocourse i know that no ship come to earth,but few survive and they are still out there,

if you read a little you will see that this is story,dont have nothing with blizzard story,its simply continue ,

i planed to create a short stories of UED remnants,how they survive,what is they ultimate goal,and other,

 

The Terran Dominion will regrow from the ashes under the leadership of Emperor Mengsk I, he has the abilities to direct the Terrans to survival, and his armies are the only decent army capable of withstanding the alien attacks. in sc1, when Terrans united all under the Dominion they fared much better.