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The Fate of our future...The UED

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by concreteasflesh, Jul 5, 2007.

The Fate of our future...The UED

  1. Xarthat

    Xarthat New Member

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    UED must have really big force somewhere near Earth, but do they know of DuGalle's defeat? Not a single ship made it way back to Earth, so they might only consider if DuGalle's done or not. Well, if they already know (somehow) I think now Kerrigan nor the Protoss could stop them (they could've stoped them when they were at full force, before the Infestation of Aiur, but not now). But then, there is Xel'Naga coming back... I would like to see battle UED vs Xel'Naga in expansion of SC2.
     
  2. Zekko

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    UED is a genocidal creation on the mother planet, Earth. UED , or what became the UED, committed genocide on thousands of their people on Earth and then experimented with prisoners that probably didn't belong in prison in the first place. The UED sent the prisoners off on three ships which got screwed up navigation and ended up in the Koprulu sector and found themselves entwined in a Protoss vs Zerg war while at war with eachother. UED is 'enlightened communism' and the Terrans of the Koprulu sector represent the last bastion of what it means to be human.
    Remember, none of the Earth bound humans consider Terrans necessarily human. At first Terrans were criminals from Earth and a science experiment. They created their own civilization SEPARATE from authoritarian UED and Earth. I can see ALL the Terran factions in the Koprulu sector teaming up to prevent a UED take over again probably with the help of some Protoss as Protoss also have similar intra-racial problems.

    Its like this. The UED doesn't consider the TERRANS exactly human , at least not the Earthling concept of human. Terrans have developed separately from their Earth/Earth colony human brothers. The Terrans had more exposure to Zergs and Protoss culture than Earthling brothers for a while. Like I said, the UED technology might be more sophisticated than Koprulu Terran technology but I am willing to bet Terrans have more psychic potential.

    In a war between the TD and UED , I would go for the TD but I would hope they obliterate eachother. I'd like to see Raynor and all the freedom minded Terran, Mutates ( with Zerg) , and Protoss liberate the Terran worlds of all maniacs and then I'd love to see Raynor decide to go liberate Earth from the UED ( maybe with Protoss back up :), can you imagine the Earthling brothers seeing a Protoss mothership emerging from the sky lol.

    But the Zerg might just kill everyone , including Earth so....
     
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    I am very fond of UED. Be patriotic, support EARTH :)
     
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    For The Mother Planet Comrades!!!!
     
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  5. Nickalisk

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    Wasn't the UED force sent to the sector only a fraction Earths Forces?

    According to the guide manuel, some of the larger broods only have like 10 million zergs, earth must have atleast 20 billion inhabitants by now... human swarm anyone?
     
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    You can try that out in the editor actually. Make 2000 Civilians fight 1 Zergling. Notice how the Zergling eats them all. :p
     
  7. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    Haha I imagined them going 'I like animals so I won't kick back' :D
     
  8. JudicatorPrime

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    How does communism detract from your Humanity? Last I checked no form of government has exclusivity on that. Also you seemed to contradict yourself, unless you really mean that ex-cons turned lab rats is what it means to be the quintessential human being. As for the more psychic potential, that doesn't really matter. All we know is that one Terran Ghost went awol and became queen ***** of the universe, but UED has some psychic's too, including the ones who helped control the Overmind.


    If the expeditionary force was... Just that, Earth could possibly obliterate the Terrans and Protoss at the same time, and could go toe to toe with Kerrigan's Zerg. It depends on the level of expansion they've achieved in their own space, and also what they've been doing all this time. The latter of which is where I get doubtful, they had such an edge of the would-be Terrans years ago, yet they've failed to surpass them technology wise.

    The UED on Earth probably know DuGalle failed. Thats the most common, and logical assumption to make. They could always send a scout party to go in and out.

    As for Earth and 20 Billion inhabitants, it's impossible. Earth doesn't have the carry capacity, and if UED has more sovereign worlds out in the Earth sector that can bring food to Earth thats just impractical. A good home world needs to be self sustaining :)
     
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  9. Zekko

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    Well I have to agree that all forms of government and the state are inherently evil. Just that communism has a particular element about it that amplifies that evil ten fold. Based on the Starcraft lore , I was describing the differences between the Terran colonists and the Earth based UED. There are profound differences but that doesn't mean one side isn't human.
    Didn't you notice DuGalle's and even Stukov's condescending attitude toward the Terran colonists? They clearly didn't consider them 'as human as' themselves hailing from the Earth dominated fraction of the galaxy.

    The roots of the Ghost Program can be traced back to earthbound experiments but it really only took off in the Terran colonies under the Terran Confederacy. We know that the Terran Confederacy was actually modeled a lot like the UED back on Earth though it claimed no such loyalty to the UED ( that we know of) and that the Terran technology was picked up by the data left over on the prison ships from the ATLAS program.

    But as the colonies lived on apart from Earth they developed their own culture distinct from Earth which in my opinion was more independent. This isn't to say that the Terran Confederacy or the new Terran Dominion is actually BETTER than the UED ethically but I would argue theres even more freedom in that than in the UED. And please, I don't think the UED can take on a combined force of colonist Terrans and Protoss, I think they would get slaughtered. Perhaps they stand a better chance now since the Protoss have been nearly obliterated but they reconstruct fast. Plus, the Protoss the UED faced was severely weakened and they didn't face the full blunt of a Protoss fleet. Remember the Conclave outlawed old protoss weapons like the Colossi ( which are back in SC2 :)) The UED seemed to have the same problem the Protoss had before the fall of Auir. They were too confident and underestimated their enemies.
     
  10. Zekko

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    Btw, Kerrigan didn't really go awol as a ghost. She was abandoned by Mengsk.
    And I actually think in the advanced Starcraft world a 20 billion population on Earth is sustainable.
    Remember, humans now have technology to alter the atmosphere and natural hospitality around their environment.
    Remember humans were able to create an artificial atmosphere on Nemaka when Ramsey led his team there. Even Bhekhar Ro was able to be settled. These planets are much more hostile than , say, Antarctica or what we think about as uninhabitable regions on Earth. If we can create sustainable colonies on other more hostile planets I don't know why that can be done with places on Earth.
     
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    I can honestly say , I wouldnt mind having a mission on earth. An invasion/invasion defense mission would be awesome.
     
  12. blind_outlaw

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    That would be cool, even if its just a easter egg mission you get at the end that has nothing to do with the story, it would be great to play



    and have the UED like the blood elves from warcraft 3, they have similar units to the Terrans but there are some changes and different art designs that let you know they are a different faction
     
  13. Ensomgrav

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    I'm sure they'll include something like it. if not im sure somebody will make it.
     
  14. freedom23

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    i want to see earth as a totally iron-planet much like the deathstar from starwars but not totally like that... just the idea of it being no more a blue planet but a technologically space planet since its the future anyway.. and it will be the UEDs prime base for operations about to be invaded by the zerg or hybrids lolz
     
  15. blind_outlaw

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    @ freedom

    so you mean like there is no natural environment left coz the huge cities of earth span the entire face of the planet, coz that would be cool, the UED has destroyed nature, those bastards:)
     
  16. Ensomgrav

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    The Deathstar was a huge space station, not a planet. Get your facts straight.
    I could see earth as totally industrial in that time period.
     
  17. Gradius

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    They weren't a science experiment. They were sent out as an experiment for settling other colonies.

    They consider them human, they just still see them as convicts. Remember that their goal was to enslave them.

    Expeditionary does not necesarily mean small, but Blizz did say that it was a very small portion of their fleet.


    The official explanation is that the UED had to steal Koprulu tech when they came here, in order to not give away their technological secrets. An entire mission was devoted to this actually. I think that they had to do this because they couldn't adapt their tech to run off the resources that grow along the galactic rim (minerals & vespene).


    Earth already had a population of 23 billion according to the manual. It definitely has other colonies, but remember that it failed to bring order to a few South American volatile states and might be engaged in wars with them. If you take a look at their growth factor, it's possible for them to have a population of over 100 billion.

    1) The UED didn't bring any of their "Uber tachyon lasers".
    2) The UED's manpower dwarfs the entire Koprulu Sector. That's why they are so arrogant and condescending. According to the manual, the Koprulu Terrans have advanced very slowly according to the UED, and the UED considered their colonies "expendable".

    It is important to note though, that Protoss are still better man for man than the UED. However, if the UED brought their full force to the k-sector, it's game over.
     
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    Has anyone mentioned that at the end of Broodwar Karagin states:
    "...the earth born directorate has been destroyed...

    That sounds to me as if they are more or less gone.
     
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    Blizzard has confirmed the UED is still around, just that their Expeditionary Force was wrecked and didn't make it back to Earth.