The Fate of our future...The UED

The UED probably has better technology then the terrans in the koprulu sector especially by now. Think of it, if it takes suspended animation to get there on FTL travel speeds, then we're talking about months, even years. It took the original Terrans 50+ years to get to the K-Sector on the FTL drives that were available. Even with technological advances made, if their drives got twice as fast it would still take 20 plus years to get there.

Lets say a message goes much faster through space(if any was sent lets say at 20 times better then the original FTL drives) it would still take a good couple of years for any thing to get through back to earth.

Then all the red tape from that operation would make any kind of decision making for the UED generals and admirals long and troublesome.

That time gap should impact technology on the UED faction , given by my theory the fleet we saw in BW was at least 10+ years old. Alot can happen in a few decades. Also another point that can be made by my theory is that we wont be seeing much of the UED in starcraft 2, given that it takes alot of resources and time to construct a fleet, and even more time to move it to the K-Sector.

 

I doubt we'll see the UED much too for the same reasons. Unless the campaign covers an insanely long period of time or the UED perfected instant travel, the only UED we'll see left is a couple of survivors that weren't caught in the Zerg attack.

 

true, but if blizzard pulls a move like UED mastering instant travel , then i will personally kick them in the teeth unless there is some damned good back story .

 

I don't expect the UED to return with a new fleet, nor do I want it to happen till the expansion.

However I do think the UED remnants should be consolidated by Stukov, and he should merge them with Raynor's Raiders and/or the Confederate Remnants(which were helping Stukov when he became infested with whatever studies he was conducting).

A UED/Raynor's Raiders/Confederate coalition would have no problem taking over as the supreme Terran Faction especially with the Dominion being screwed up and Stukov's leadership.

why would raynor or the confederates do this?

Well lets see UED does it because of two reasons: Survival and instead of holding down an outpost on some volcanic planet waiting for another fleet to arrive they can help the backup they think is coming by continuing to pressure the UED's Enemies.

Raynor does it because his luck seems to have been down as of late, and I bet he trusts Stukov more than any other human who offered an alliance, and Stukov would bring promise and hope of ending this crazy ass war.

Confederates do it because it offers them a return to power, and probably better funded expiraments, cause they're up to something in those labrotories, and i'm kind of eager to find out what it is and what kind of headway they've made since we last heard anything of significance from them(when Megnsk pwned them)

 

wasn't stukov confirmed K.I.A ?

 

in a bonus mission in SC64 which was later ported to the PC Stukov is found infested by Artanis, Raynor, and Taldarin(some Dragoon which fought with Adun), Stukov wasn't at full strength yet and had a base of Terran and Zerg(though most of his Terran troops were fleeing due to being scared of the zerg and crap) and he was eventually captured, injected with Nanites or some crap which reversed his infestation before it became totally complete, they then escaped and Stukov was gratful however slightly regretted losing the power he felt while infested.

there was also two missions before that which can be dled along with the third off blizzard's site in which infested stukov played a role, in one(maybe both but I don't remember) he was spotted with confederates.

so...yeah he was shot, but apparently not killed, who infested him? a renegade cerebrate? Kerrigan?, Duran? who knows but he did live on, and I hope that Blizzard doesn't abondon this added storyline they created, and hopefully he'll appear in SCII.

 

I'm pretty sure they shot him out of a space cannon in a funeral rite.

 

Okay in the story line it states that the fleet the UED sent was a small fraction of their initial army. Their actual fleet is so huge it cannot even be put into numbers. Their technology at this point must be amazing as I am willing to bet some form of technology was sent back to them from the korpulu sector. Not only that but now they know what their are up against and have better knowledge of the surrounding area. They could send fleet after fleet into the korpulu if they wanted to. But the zerg would probably still beat them because the zerg pwn anyone. The UED will show up in an expansion pack no doubt just like in BW. When they do people will ally against them. Stuckov will probably be dead by then because with out a doubt he would side with Earth. I don't care who you are Earth is home for stuckov and you don't go to war with a place you call home.

and as for the time it takes for them to get them.
Don't forget that it wasn't till shortly after the terran dominion defeated the confederates that the UED found out and got the initiative to come to the Korpulu sector. This means that it only took the time between Starcraft and BW for them to organize a fleet and send it. So it would make sense it it takes less then maybe 5 years to travel from earth to the korpulu sector.

 

Returned with a private army known as Stukov Saboteurs i hope.^^

 

One thing we don't know is what if Earth has returned to a unalligned state and is now at war? The Koprulu Sector would be worthless to them if that is the case now. We have to remember it took a long time for the UED to get there from Earth.

 

pretty sure two alien races trying to destroy another human faction, one of which wants to destroy anything and everything, with a third race coming to kill all three of those, might just peak some interests back on lil ol' earth, sure if they're in civil war they'd handle that first, but they'd keep an eye on korpulu.

 

We're screwed anyway with aliens or not. I've just read today (again) that by 2050, half of the world is going to be without proper sanitation and 2/3 going to have water shortage. We sure like to f@#$ ourselves. Sorry to be so depressing.

 

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The old "population bomb" theory.

The problem is that large populations tend to get culled, by a virus or by war. Sometimes both. After that, things get better fairly quickly.

 

Facts, not fantasy.

1) No ships got back to Earth. This doesn't prevent messages from getting back to Earth. (Remember the propaganda video. That kind of thing would be sent to Earth.)

We don't know how long the information would take to get to Earth. It can certainly get there; if the UED/UPL had no way of getting information from the Koprulu Sector, then how did they know about the destruction of Chau Sara?

Information is good, but not as good as actual experience. If the UED had gotten even a single person back, they would have a more realistic view of what happened to their fleet.

2) At the BlizzCon lore panel, we were told the UED wouldn't come back. However, there may be remnants of the initial invasion force stuck in the Koprulu Sector. In addition, the UED could come back in an expansion, StarCraft III, Worlds of StarCraft, etc. They're not going to appear in the game coming out this year or next, though.

3) At the same panel, we were told the Expeditionary Fleet was relatively small.

4) The UED used Terran technology due to gameplay constraints. However, StarCraft II's map editor will be much better than StarCraft I's; there could be a UED "subrace" the same way blood elves were a "subrace" of the Alliance (or Nagas, an entirely NPC race). At the lore panel, we were told the UED had better technology than the Terrans.

5) Is Mengsk nuts?

"I will rule this sector or see it burnt to ashes around me."

Seems like it to me.


Bonus 200 minerals for an informative post

 

Ha, now instead of a miracle we just wait for Bird Flu or WWIII...I guess this is a tad less depressing than...uh...the population bomb theory . But thanks for your post...never dawned to me all those statistics had a name.

 

Certainly, they get better, things improve, but your'e still left with the environmental hang over of the previous generation. Some things humans do simply don't go away, each time there is a 'culling' the capacity to have a large population diminishes. The problem with having something like the UED is that a) is doesn't account for the environmental effects that this type of society would have, b) because this, it is unlikely that something like the UED could ever form, or sustain itself for a long time.

If anything I would say in the future, human populations will have low levels of technology and government control, and a much smaller population than we see today.

 

Did you also know that the "pest" resulted in a big technical development, because the "normal" man wanted more money paid from the "lords", so the lords needed to adapt to still have their big position in the society.
But its normal known that viruses and wars happened when a big population occurred. Right know Africa is dying out, because (perhaps) they had a great surplus population...

 

Well...forming something like the UED is possible, but it would require...an unnatural twist.

 

It would require COMMUNISM!

 

if the UED does make a return, they should get there own art designs, so instead of just terran marines with UED colours lets get some cool art designs for the UED and some cool NPC units for them (like the Knolls and Ogers from warcraft 3)

see what blizzard can cook up for them