The Fate of Daggoth

Pity. I actually liked daggoth

 

who are the new zerg heroes then

 

Let me just say that the fate Daggoth is yours to decide in the Starcraft Heroes Battle Royale!

 

Kerrigan will be the main hero, but my guess is that the other zerg heroes will be like Torrasque; stronger, more violent versions of the units they are based on. (I hope to see a lurker hero *drools* imagine it doing 50 damage or something ^_^)

 

Or... Kerrigan has spent the last four years developing a new type of Cerebrate or a different control unit.

This could lead to a change in the Overlords. She may have also simply expanded on the Overlord idea... They could become the new heroes...

 

i don't want a floating elephant covered with its own meat(no the outside ) to act like a hero...
But i see your point, even their design could be drastically changed. But, i hope not. The Ovies should perhaps be changed gameplay/storywise, but not visually. They are so ugly its awesome.

 

Lol. That's true. But something tells me that if the Overmind needed help controlling all the Zerg swarms at once, then Kerrigan is going to need some help with it as well.

I don't think even she has the psychic ability to continue to control such large numbers of creatures all by herself. She'll need some underlings to delegate tasks to. That would require something similar to the Cerebrates.

 

Actually, isn't it possible for them to come back? The Overmind created them, and they obeyed him/it/whatever, so Kerrigan should be able to create a bunch of em too, and they would obey her. Now, is it not possible for them to be created again? is it something I've missed in the story?

btw, they look like overfed larvae lol. ...and when i realized that, i also realized what huge, awesome units they would morph into

 

Lol....well.... Kerrigan has different psionic abilities than the Overmind had. She could very well be capable of creating Cerebrates, but it's just as likely that she doesn't have that ability.

She may need to find an alternative way to control her troops. I would actually gamble on the latter of these options as it will add a nice touch of change to the Zerg in the only way that is really possible aside from the Swarm simply assimilating more units.

 

yes, but one question remains. first, lets take a look at the zerg hierarchy

Overmind
V
Cerebrates
V
Overlords


now, since the two upper ones have been killed, should Overlords get lost too, now that Kerrigan rules the Zerg?

 

That's kinda what I suggested... the Overlords may be changed because the structure of the Zerg hive has changed as well.

But I think that would be rather unlikely. I can just see a building type of maybe a "Cerebrate" or some type of "control" building on top of the Overlords.

Maybe because Kerrigan can only control small amounts of forces, etc....

 

I was sad to read that Metzen interview. I liked the idea of huge building like creatres lording over the swarm; god bless that big meat suspended eye avatar, and Daggoth was the best.

Maybe zerg in SC2 will build ovies to a cap of 100units, then cerebrates that give large chunks of supply? IDK, certainly they won't be building supply depot or pylon like buildings. Unless creep colonies give supply. It would make for a lot more creep on the map (a good thing ascetically), but make them seem too much like the scourge from war3 (A very bad thing. Undead in war3 were a big zerg "rip off" in the first place).

 

I really don't understand why people even care about this character. To me, those zerg cerebrates were one of the least interesting characters in the game. They had barely a few lines of dialogue in which they said nothing amusing or interesting and which didn't describe or portray their character in any other way than as Overminds henchmen who did only what he commanded them to do.

Most of all I don't understand why people can't accept that Daggoth is dead. In that Metzen interview I was really surprised they even asked a question that had such an obvious answer.
1. Kerrigan said that "the renegade Cerebrates, commanded by Daggoth, merged into a new Overmind". It is clear that what Kerrigan ment was that Daggoth and all other surviving cerebrates merged into a new Overmind. Now, if you would twist and turn this statement around, you could possibly draw a conclusion that Daggoth, for some reason, decided not to become a new Overmind and rule the Zerg but instead decided to stand aside and let the Overmind control him. But in the context of the SC story and all avaliable info we have this conclusion makes no sense.

2.At the ending of Brood War Kerrigan killed the Overmind and ALL the cerebrates (except the one who was helping her, the players character). So if Kerrigan managed to kill the Overmind, defeat the entire UED, Protoss and Dominion fleet then why oh why wouldn't she be able to hunt down and kill a mere cerebrate like Daggoth? Not only that, but there weren't any implications that any of the enemy cerebrates survived.

 

The idea was that Daggoth, being the most powerful of the rogue Cerebrates, didn't become part of the new Overmind because someone needed to control the broods who were defending it. This was his ultimate task and in the end he failed.

 

Kerrigan told that Cerebrates UNDER Daggoth merged into new Overmind, so he is impossible to be part of it.
However, Duran said that ALL of the Overmind's Cerebrates are dead, and Daggoth is certainly one of them. If he is not dead in SC2, I would say it is coming more illogical than I thought.

 

i do believe that Daggoth is dead, but...

I dont think that his word can be trusted. He kind of betrayed Kerrigan so everything he told her could be bs. maybe he is planning something for Daggoth/the surviving cerebrates?(if there were any left...)
he might need cerebrates to control the hybrids, you know...

 

Cerebrates can be revived, right?
Since Kerrigan's now the leader of the zerg, she could revive the cerebrates, but this time make sure that they follow her will like they followed the Overmind's will.

 

Cerebrates cannot be revived when they are killed by Dark Templar energy.

 

And they can be revived only by an Overmind, not any substitute of it. So, they're now fully mortal.

 

next time you guys play the game play as zerg don't go on to b-net and type in radio free zerg and listen to the song, this song is the overmind singing to the swarms for them to listen to it and sometime during the song the over says "how do you like my groove DAGGOTH" then DAGGOTH days "well done" that proves that daggoth didn't merge with the other cerebrates to become the new overmind. the new overmind did reach maturity while the UED was controlling it, so the UED were the masters of Daggoth as well provided he wasn't one of the cerebrates you have to kill in order for you to get to the overmind in the terrans final broodwar mission