The case for a 4TH RACE on third game release

Can you qualify this?

 

the thing is...how are the hybrids/xel'naga NOT significant in the universe? they can kill all 3 races or save them

you know xel'naga probably have a Wing ZERO that blows up planets!!!

 

Thats why I highly doubt they will be playable races if they make an appearance. Though I'm betting they won't show up until the last game, legacy of the void or something.

The Xel'naga basically created the Zerg and Protoss, well they enhanced the Protoss from a primitive tribal state and gave them a small amount of their knowledge. The Xel'naga have vasts amount of knowledge, can create and geneticly engineer species and travel between galaxies I think being able to play as them would take away some of the mysticism of them. I also highly doubt Blizzard will do that.

The reason why I say it is very unlikely for a fourth playable race is that Blizzard keeps saying they want to harkin to the original and keep the 3 races and make them unique. They already have spent so much time and effort on balancing the 3 races that are already there I highly doubt they are gonna throw in a 4th race and rebalance the game all of a sudden.

 

in SC2 yes...SC3? i dont see why not since they have to balance the game all over again anyway

btw if they dont want to re-balance then you obviously want NOTHING new, SC2 requires a ton of balancing and they didnt even add a new race. making a new race in someways is easier because in terms of units you go "ok this should be on the tier of zealots, zerglings, and marines" or "this should be an immortal/siege tank type unit" or carrier-battlecruiser class, or a mothership class

 

The thing is, they are trying to make all races pretty unique, not every race has a equivalent such as a mothership class unit or a unit like the Zerg Queen. I'm not saying I want NOTHING new at all sure they could add a unit or two to the current races that already exist as it won't nearly be as difficult as adding in a entire new race.

You seem to be missing the point, I'm talking about the addition of an entire new race and just because I say it is not viable to add an entire new race doesn't mean I'm against anything new at all. Just look at Warcraft 3 and the first Starcrarfts expansion all they did was add a couple new heroes or a new unit to their foundation. Thats a lot different than if they added an entire new playable race.

 

warcraft 3 added 2 new races...

 

the point is, there can be a 4th race and still be unique and balance. It just needs a lot of time to make it.

lets say a 4th and 5th race ca be balanced and unique, would you not still take it? if you ask me , yes coz it be awesome and more fun, also it expands the starcraft universe more which is a good thing.

 

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Are you kidding me? What two new races are there besides Humans, Orcs, Night Elves and Undead? It seems you still don't get it. I'm talking about playable races for the core game. Naga and Bloodelves are not playable races or even designed as so. I'm talking about main playable races here.

I didn't know there were 6 races instead of the 4.

Also please try to avoid posting short posts such as "I like zeratul11" as it is against forum etiquette rules. http://www.starcraft2forum.org/forums/showthread.php?t=70

 

As well as i think making a fourth race can be risky I think setting new unit that not part of a race we can play in campaign can be fun.

*you are zerg and the protoss(with hard work) activated one of the xel'naga machine and it is coming to your base.*trouble*

And as well I would see some powerfuls hybrids coming on the way or even IA if you can give a good reason how are they here.

 

I'm relatively certain that Wind just meant the transition from WC2-3. But it wasn't hard to improve on unique balance from WC2.

But we all must collectively realize that although from the same developer, WC =/= SC and so is not a legitimate example of the 4 race theory. Starcraft seems to be doing extraordinarily fine with three races. However, if Blizzard somehow thinks they can create a fourth race with a completely unique economic/strength philosophy AND not change the current trio (IE in order to make a new philosophy, they change the marine to 75 minerals, 2 food, zergling to 45 minerals, .25 food, etc etc), then by all means go for it. But honestly, I don't see a gap of said dimensions in the foundation of Starcraft.

 

1 - yes my bad forgot about that

2 - uh, you obviously have forgotten that Warcraft had 2 races until Warcraft 3
human and orcs

in RoC they were night elves and undead ZOMG TWO NEW RACES!!!!!!! Blood elves were an offshoot of humans as such subrace, no new gameplay. naga....well not much of a race.

so here we are, Warcraft was just dandy with two races for 2 games and 2 expansions. im pretty sure they can figure out how on how to add in a 4th playable race without changing too much in the core gameplay

we should also note that we are not paid employees of blizzard whose job is to make a 4th race work within givin perameters, we dont have job training on coming with with units, buildings, and other works involved for making a race. who can honestly say they could have thought up everything thats changed in SC2?

 

Actually Naga were fully playable except the Sea Witch is a tavern hero, and if I remember you can't upgrade your "town hall".

The Blizzard employees and whatnot.

Warcraft only had two games with one expansion for the 2nd game.

I really. Really. Couldn't imagine a fourth race in Starcraft. Even after all the three games, and (if one is released) a Starcraft 3.

 

The Naga are more like a sub-race, Again I'm talking about a race on par with the main ones, not one that you play on the side in the editor or one the main races campaigna. I'm talking about a full fledged race with its own campaign, able to select in multi-player matches etc.

 

Yeah they weren't entirely there, but damn, they were close.

 

what if sc2 had a new race when it was announced. Im sure everyone of you has not stop drooling over the new race till now.

I really hope the UED will be back as the new race. I wanna see a high tech sleeker human race which look so advance but not anywhere alien like the toss or xelnaga. A renewed UED will fit this.

 

Well, the fact is the game is being designed around having 3 playable races right now but if they started with 4 that would be different. I wouldn't want it to be something like just another Terran faction though.

Personally, I like the idea of just keep the Protoss, Terran, and Zerg like the original has. I'm sure they will have some campaign only units or sub-races though if you will in it though. For example, Warcraft 3 had Satyrs, Centaurs, Burning Legion etc but they weren't excatly a playable race or anything.

 

thanks for emphasizing what i had said in that same post

i think one reason why so many people are hesitant is b/c if the hybrids/XN are the 4th race, what will they be like, and thats a question no one knows the answer to...well maybe blizzard does, atleast what they look like

 

You're oh so clever, Windblade; and oh so peremptory! Thank God you're here to enlighten us and warn us against our own delusions! But I have a question: would a unit with 100, 000 hitpoints, 4000 damage and +25 armour work for a new race? Because, as you so sagaciously suggested, we're not Blizzard employees and all, and, you know, we have no idea what will or won't work for a 4th race...

So, lads, any ideas on this one or will I have to ask Blizzard?

 

my point was we dont have jobs that drill workable models into our brains

lets say that unit exists, now what's it called, what effects does it have, abilities?, lore, appearance, now do that +about 20 more units and about 20 structures and now then you can balance it all down