Small Thor

But what is Siege Mode without range? Nothing.
The Thor's GtG capabilities are currently described as lame by Jon, but it's GtA attack is totally devestating! You only need one Thor to fend of any number of Mutas.

I agree though, I'd rather see it becoming GtG again.

 

No the Thor has cannon on its back which own all air units. Its main role is to kill air now. The tank is better than Thor at GtG. @Skyblades

 

I see your point there. The Thor is probably just a short range version with more health. Health is important.

 

So the cannons on the thor's back have been turned into flak-anti air cannons, correct? cool.

 

Ok I'm hearing lots of different things these days. Now apparently the THOR has an anti air attack, does it still have a ground attack, does is still have that artillery ability?

I've also heard it no longer is built from an SCV and moves significantly faster.

Can I please have some confirmation??

 

It has both anit air and ground attack, but anti air is significantly stronger. iirc it doesn't have any abilities. It's build from factory and moves about as fast an an unsieged tank.

That's how it was in the build on 10th March at least

 

I think it needs its Bombardment ability. That was the amazingly special highlight of the Thor, so removing that would be like removing the Reaper's Jet Pack or the Viking's Air Form. They might be able to alter it so that all units, including Air units, in the Bombarded area take damage from it. The explosion radius is so huge that it would easily be able to damage Air units as well. That way it would also contribute to its Anti-Air capabilities.

 

the only thing i thought amazing about the Thor was it's ability to be built from an SCV. i think seige tanks artillery mode covers the thors ability easily.

thanks for info btw

 

In fact, I forgot about being built from SCV's. They should bring back that mechanic as well. Thinking about it, how much has the Thor been shrunk by? If it's still fairly beefy, it'd be quite unrealistic to be producing them from a building that's almost as big as it.
Siege Tanks' Siege Mode does cover a lot of the Thor's Bombardment role, which was why I thought allowing Bombardment to damage Air units as well might help differentiate them. It's all purely speculation though, so anything could happen.
Basically, being built by SCV's and having Bombardment were the Thor's defining characteristics. If it's made smaller and has the Bombardment ability taken away, it might as well be a new unit. Once the Thor's found a designated role, let's say small Anti-Air unit with Bombardment just for this example, I think the fans would be a lot more comfortable if Blizzard made a new unit for that role. Even if the new unit and the Thor were both small Anti-Air units with a Bombardment-type ability and had the exact same health, damage, cost, etc, I feel people will approve of the replacement more. The Thor's been changed around too much so people will always be wary of it and comparing it to earlier and later versions of it. If it's going to change too much more they need to bring out a fresh new unit for the exact same role to stop people from judging it too harshly.

 

i don't think blizzard should listen to their fans to that absurd degree.

 

Why not? If they change the role of the Thor again, even if it gets its own unique spot, people will still hate it compared to the older versions and will still be extremely wary about its position and where they think it should be. If they bring out a brand new unit, with the exact same stats and abilities, all renamed and remodelled, then people won't be comparing it to old versions of the Thor, because it's a brand new unit. It's not listening to fans, it's finding ways to stop them criticising and comparing units.
For example, if the Firebat was given a slowing attack to biological units and a bonus against vehicles, then people would be complaining about its new role and how it should have its old one back. However, if the Firebat was cut, which it was, and if they released a brand new units instead, then people wouldn't be complaining and comparing the old and new unit, because they're not the same unit.

 

hes got you beat there devil.

 

if thor should be built from a SCV (because its just as big as a factory) then the Mothership should be warped in by a Probe. Cuz the Mothership is as big as a Stargate. eh? lol.
naa, im thinking realisticly-wise....lol...so dont worry about me ^.~

 

The Mothership isn't produced at the StarGate though. No Protoss units are produced at their building. Instead they're all Warped In from their home planet, so the Mothership can still be bought at the StarGate.

 

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yeah tahts what i was saying..but the mothership is so HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGEEE you know...lol

 

That's why it would take so long to Warp In. There aren't really any size limitations when it comes to Warping In, because that's all you're doing. It's not being built, where there would be limitations of materials, machinery and the size of the workshop (which is why the Thor needs to be built by SCV's) and it's not being grown, where there would be limitations on the rate of growth, etc, it's just being summoned. Obviously it would have had to be built somewhere, but that's really none of the player's concern.

 

What's happening is that several protoss civilians who "help" by slamming their head on their keyboards will break the keyboard in such a way that a Mothership is dimensionally transplanted from one zone of the galaxy to another. This takes a massive amount of energy, and so you waste so much resources to replace the keyboards, and buy controlled restraints. So in a basic sense the appearance of a MS means that you are watching a mathematical marvel happen. The massive size of the ship makes it around the size of a flying city, controlled by broken keyboards and a large handful of rich people. Where in all my logic can you fit a Stargate? Unless you have two stargates of such massive size that planets could pass through, then not ONLY do you have broken keyboards, but you also have a broken Stargate, and a scratch on the Mothership.


Looking at that, we can logically (and mentally) assume that the Thor, which has enough armor to withstand the weight of a Imperial Star Destroyer, would most likely be constructed in a clear field so that the machine does not destroy the Factory when unfolding out of its box.

Edit: I know that it is nonsense. I'm trying to say that the Mothership is partially comparable to the Thor: both are too big to be built in a factory or pass through a Stargate.

 

Hey skyblade there is one problem with your theory. its total nonsense.

 

I'm almost positive you build a MS at the Stargate. this is most likely because of its immense size. I always considered the time you had to wait for a unit the protos opening a big enough gate for a plane or zealot or MS to fly through.

 

Why are you talking about a Mothership and Protoss civilians in a fucking Thor topic?