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[SC2F] BlizzCon Ticket QUESTIONS THREAD!

Discussion in 'Competitions' started by MeisterX, Jun 2, 2009.

[SC2F] BlizzCon Ticket QUESTIONS THREAD!

Discussion in 'Competitions' started by MeisterX, Jun 2, 2009.

  1. LordKerwyn

    LordKerwyn New Member

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    So furrer let me ask you this, if the vote is public what stops someone from making multiple accounts to just vote for themselves? No matter what you do you are going to have potential for abuse. Personally I am more willing to trust people I have helped hand pick not to abuse the system versus some random person who joined just so they could have a shot at winning a beta key or blizzcon ticket.

    As for this particular contest I think it would have been best if seradin hadn't voted (or chose not to vote for himself) however it made no difference on the outcome and I can promise you there was no concerted plan with the votes; I think only 2 out of 15 entries didn't get a vote, but there was only 3 that got more than 2. That should give you an idea of how split the vote was with the overlap being were people won.
     
  2. furrer

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    Multipleaccount could be IP-banned. Democrazy has it drawbacks yes, but its "fair". If you read my post you will see that im not against your system, but a lot of other people got angry etc. etc. - I think my idea could help with that.
     
  3. LordKerwyn

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    They could be ip-banned if caught. The catch with something like this is the more incentive someone has to cheat the more clever they are going to go about doing it, which makes it harder for us to catch it. Really the best solution would have been to either not let any of the Hyperion join the competition or temporarly lokced Seradin out for the duration of the competition. Like I already said though, if Seradin wasn't in the Hyperion it wouldn't have had any effect on the outcome. In the future though we will try and come up with a solution where participants don't have any control of the outcome.
     
  4. furrer

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    First, just so none of this I say get misunderstanded: "I am not whining because I didnt win etc. etc."

    I still think that everybody should get the chance to vote for his favourite - and therefore gain influence. If you prefer an undemocratic procedure because its easier to control, your choice - but I just cant accept that in the long run.
     
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    do we even still need this thread anymore? seems to left original intent a long time.
     
  6. LordKerwyn

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    furrer despite what you think, the choice isn't democratic versus un-democratic, it's letting everyone vote and creating many opportunities for abuse, or letting only a select group vote and risk the groups bias. I simply believe the second option has less risk attached to it, expecially when you know the potential bias of the group and can check for it.

    Finally, just for the record this site isn't a democracy it is a dictatorship or at best, an oligarchy. To believe otherwise (for this site or most other web sites) is not a good mistake to make on the internet.
     
  7. darkone

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    I would have to go with the latter on the government of the site, oligarchy. Which is the better system for this kind of place.

    There is a way to make voting democratic, make a special board for voting on things like this, but only allow access to people with post counts of over 100. Unless special permission is given to a lurker. This will be like a coming of age thing for voting that is done in modern society.
     
  8. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    I like the idea, but the limit would have to be tweaked (I'd say 500 posts).
     
  9. darkone

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    Well that number was just for an example.

    It is debatable really, and changable according to the topic.
     
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    500 seems a bit high, 100 is enough to ensure that the account isn't made for voting without being too exclusive.
     
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    Yeah I like 100 too.
     
  12. LordKerwyn

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    So what is the difference between an arbitrary post limit and a Hyperion limit? Also, any member with a high post count will have an advantage against a member who just joined because they will be able to vote for themselves and the new person can't.

    If the vote is going to be far, and there is going to be some kind of limit on who votes, the limit should either exclude everyone participating or no one participating.
     
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    You could exclude those people from seeing the board.

    I know my idea isn't perfect, but at least I am thinking of a solution.
     
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    Oh if some random came up to me in the street and told me a funny joke I'd laugh even harder cause it's be funny and unexpected. I'd never have seen or met the joke teller before but a funny joke is a funny joke.

    But I agree he should have just given them to a couple of mates . . . wait a second I thought that's what he actually did :)
     
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    Fine. You can believe whatever you want, dude.

    The fact remains that the vast majority of people would just be confused or suspicious if someone randomly came up to them and started telling them jokes, as well as the fact that Jon didn't actually have the means to rig the outcome of this competition.

    There's obviously no convincing you. You're either being stubborn, trolling, or you're just trying to be clever.