Sc2 Zealot Rush

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Uhm... if I said it, I don't remember saying it, but I am pretty confident that Zealots had a genreral speed upgrade... it might have been packed with Charge, but I think it was still separate...

I think the Twilight Council had Charge, Blink, Hardened Shields, and probably... Leg Enhancements.

 

Im not sure, but i also remember something about a speed upgrade, somewhere down there....

 

Leg Enhancements is the speed upgrade.

 

But are both upgrades still there? Both the Leg Enhancement and the Charge? And are they separate upgrades, or does the Charge include a general speed bonus too?

 

We should ask Blizzard whether the Leg enhancment upgrade consists of Charge and the speed boost or are they seperate.

 

Yeah that would be a good question. But dont you think the the Zealots are to strong if they get the charge + the same speed bonus as in SC1. I think if they get a speed upgrade, it should be slower then in SC1.

 

I'd rather they give us a choice of upgrading Charge or Leg Enhancements at the same time. Customizes Protoss play and stops players from pretty much mirroring each other in PvP
Allowing us to choose which one you want also rules out any imbalance, and lets us choose which will be more effective for the immediate situation.

 

as always it will take a skilled player to micro the zealot rush and you have to remember that the opponent will be doing the same

 

The zealot charge ability will need to be micro controlable in order to make everyone happy.

 

the speed upgrade in the original starcraft was just as late as it is probably going to be in starcraft 2. there will still be zealot rushes, because they f***xxoring own. I'm still going to send out one of my first probes and proxy rush hah -- pwnzed.

 

Omfg. As my micro skills have been developing, Zealot rush with charge will be so fucking potent. It is now better for us Zealot rushers since theres 6 Probes at start meaning the other race will have to brace themselves for anyone who may Zealot rushes since fast Marines won't help as there are no Firebats or Medics to help. Zerg will have to go fast Banelings to stop a continuous Zealot rush.
Who knows when the charge ability is researchable, and what is its prequesite?(sp?)

 

*Prerequisite.
Charge upgrade will probably come later. Also, you're forgetting that the other races will be also have the benefit of six starting workers. Terran have Bunkers and Marauders to protect themselves from on-coming Zealots and the Zerg have Roaches, which are extremely effective counters.

 

I doubt Marauders will be that effective against the earlyest a Zealot rush can be. Zealots would be in your base before the Marauders are out. But if Terran can get the Reactor add-on early game they might be saved cuz if the Terran player survives the few Zealots and gets Marauders out, it isn't that hard to spread out the Zealots and micro them to take out the Marauder. Simply need 2 Zealots on each Marauder and its GG. And once the continuous stream of Zealots is running into the Terran's base I think they would be pretty crippled by then. I think Terran's lifeline against a continuous Zealot rush would have to be bunkers then Jackal.

 

You're forgetting that Terran also get to start with six workers. They only need a Tech Lab to be able to produce Marauders, and even though them on their own aren't effective against Zealots they'll be able to keep them out of melee combat from much longer, benefiting Marines greatly. Also, Bunker.

 

Marines and Marauders in correct Bunker placement would shit all over Zealots. But obviously in large numbers the Zealots would own a defense like that. Then while the Terran are turtling, Stalkers blink into the mineral line
I will miss Dragoon micro tho, since the didn't have a directional change animation, which allowed nice micro with them. The Stalker doesn't retain that it seems, which is why it has blink. The most micro I could imagine with Stalkers is blinking and placement.

 

3 marines and 1 marauder per bunker on a formation of 3 bunkers with one or two of the new crucio tanks sounds like an effective counter.
The marauders slow down the zealots, and the marines pin them down, finishing them off with tanks. Sounds like victory for Terrans.

 

Tanks, if they last that long. I like to win my games as quick as possible. I play quite aggressivly.

 

You figure it would, come on, it is a tank after all.

 

Immortal > Tank

 

depends if the immortals have the hardened shield upgrade or not
i suspect roaches will play a good counter against zealot rushes or if the queen masses swarm clutches and has a bunch of zerglings i think zerg can repel zealot rushes pretty well