SC2 BattleReport 2 Released!

I like how it was the same match up of kim v cooper that the first battle report had and Cooper did the same mistake of not pushing foward when i owned the middle of the map and didnt let kim move this one i bet was from beta version but the first battle report was from alpha version which means soon hopefully they will tell us a release date

 

Epic fail with not exploiting the map control early.

Mutalisks would've helped alot when he got nighthawks and especially without medics to heal the splash damage ( i assume mutas can outrun hunter-seekers, and if not, wtf can?).

I have no problem with infested terran coming from eggs, they've been partly assimilated into the swarm, it doesn't work when they have full marine equipment upon hatching however.

I think the build orders were fixed a bit but still a better video than battle report 1.

 

I'd be all thumbs up for the hatched terrans if instead of popping up fully armed with terran weapons and armor; instead they hatched being able to shoot projectiles from itself.

 

Agreed, i'd still like to see melee infested terran however.

 

Well I finally watch it today and....it was amazing. I totally didn't expect David Kim to win....I've already watch 13 times!

 

13 times?! it wasn't that good...

And yeah, i was expecting a fast zerg victory early on.

 

I loved when the Banelings and D8 charges ALL exploded!!
Massive damage, reducing both forces to nothing...

 

@Overmind...I loved it!!!

 

"OH OH TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE!!!!!" ~ Dustin.

LOLOL that man is awesome xD

 

i can't he said that again, must be making it into a catchphrase

 

Seen the Dustin statue already? xp

 

Seriously dude? Just some simple focused fire would work no probs.

I agree, healing never goes astray. Same with the ability to do a drop behind the mineral lines.

Really, a slight move in tech would've completely thrown the zerg off. So your totally right when you tried to be funny about the whole 'getting a tank or two' idea.

Some fast drops in the back of the terrans base or a quick reaper raid on the zergs mineral line. Anything that wasn't 2 armies going head to head and having only 2 or 3 units survive. No real player goes into a fight they won't win.

Don't be stupid.

No it isn't. You said it yourself, "We can watch professional micro whenever in normal StarCraft matches". I want to see what it would be like when that "professional micro" is put in StarCraft 2.

Your just proving my point. These guys are no good. The only way he'd be able to "breach the Terran base" is by out macroing him. A good 2 more hatcheries (even within his own base) would've been enough to overrun the terran.

The only thing disappointing about it was the level of gameplay. The amount of mistakes were phenomenal.

 

Sigh.

Firstly, I was making the point that everything could have been useful and it's not just Tanks, Tanks, Tanks. As for Snipe, you've got to be joking. He never had anywhere near enough firepower to take out all those Banelings when he needed to. Yes, he could have focused fire, but that would have only have taken out one or two before they were completely obliterated.

And I wouldn't say 'funny' as much as I'd say 'sarcastic'.

Secondly, so it wasn't fast paced because they didn't raid? They hardly ever had time to raid, as all their units had to be there to either defend or press the attack. On top of that, the Terran player did try to raid with his Banshees, and he set up that early Bunker as well too, and the Zerg player tried as well with the back entrance, but was driven off each time. Seriously, neither player was really in the position where raiding was really an option. Both of them would have had to have teched and built some Dropships or evolved to transport and taken about ten to twenty units off the battlefield. If they'd've done that they'd simply have allowed the other team to get through their defences or have eased the pressure allowing them to recuperate. Same goes with the Reapers.

Also, the paths was blocked most of the time as well, as we saw when the Terran player kept scouting with his Reapers and with how quickly the Zerg reacted to stop those Banshees. Oh also, the Roach getting behind the lines of the expansion was short-lived, and he Zerg successfully took out a new expansion, too. Raiding really isn't that fast-paced anyway. Definitely not to the same extent as what was actually taking place, anyway.

As for the micro, again, it's not really the point of the Battle Reports, and also again, both players are still learning the ropes, as we saw. Regardless, where should they have microed more? Should they have had their Marines running while shooting or what? I was quite satisfied with what I saw, especially with the Banelings, from both teams.

And no, I'm not proving your point, as you've completely missed mine. I'm saying he thought he had the game won, just as we all did. No-one expands when they think they've won. They've obviously still getting used to the fact that it's easier to come back from less in StarCraft2 than it is in StarCraft1. Seriously, if it were more like StarCraft1, the Zerg player would have won it there and then.

And yes, I've already said it was a huge mistake. You don't have to convince me.

 

But you keep backing up the point of how it was not a mistake. Quit flip-flopping and choose a side to your argument. I say, "the gameplay was bad". You say "no it wasn't" then straight away you say "Yes it is".

Do you think it was good or don't you?

 

Firstly, I've been saying it was a justified mistake. Yes, it's a mistake, I've said that, but it wasn't made because he's just stupid, or because of a lack of skill.

Secondly, the gameplay isn't ruled by this single decision, or lack thereof. The gameplay was great, and the Zerg player made a mistake. Those two events are not mutually exclusive.

 

If it wasn't made because of lack of skill, why was it made then?

I know "the gameplay isn't ruled by this single decision", but i would like to know how the gameplay stacks up to that of brood wars when the same level of skill is applied. I have a slight feeling SC2 is gunna go the way of ye olde WC3. But until i play i wont be able to judge. Maybe SC2 plays surprisingly different to starcraft:BW.. i dunno

 

Host a 1v1 Obs match in starcraft 1 on battle.net, be an observer, and just let 2 random people duke it out. Then I think you will have a new appreciation for the comparative skill level of the play in the battle reports.

They had an agenda to demonstrate a handful of basic tactics and mechanics while at the same time having to avoid revealing too much. I think they did a fine job of making it look like a casual game between two average joes, you can't really put two progamers in a room and say "Play a match that will last 20 minutes, only shows off these specific units, shows off these specific mechanics, and you can't tech past this point, etc..., but don't make it look like you made any mistakes or bad decisions."

 

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That was excelent. SC2 is going to be an awesome game.

 

I've already discussed that. It was made because he got cocky, and thought he'd already won. Seriously, you think every mistake made is due to a lack of skill?

And the same level of skill was applied. We've seen that in both games now.

Lastly, I dunno where you're pulling that WarCraftIII crap from. It seems completely unrelated to everything.

 

I was actually on IGN looking at spore galatic adventures when i saw it in the bottom screen and then i watched it and thought it was awesome enough that i want the game even more now