same unit vs unit who would win?

Colossus vs 100 SCVs...This one is tough...i'm gonna cheer for the SCVs.

Dark Templar vs. Battlecruiser. Winner = N/A

 

Uhm. The colossus mashes over 40 zerglings by itself in seconds. And has something like 300 shields and 300 health. How the hell could the scv's win? Lol, just saying.

 

Colossus vs the super-SCV erm I mean thor?

 

If that ever happened, hilarity would ensue. Especially if you remind yourself of how corny the SCV's move and attack in SC1. Pure comedy gold in gaming form.

 

when SC2 comes out, i will go on b.net with my friend and i will build 100 SCVs and ill have him build a colossus, then i will make them fight, because im not sure who would win lol.

 

id say scvs will win cause...they quite attack fast and has more hp than marines and scv can build stuff
so...scv build thor and attacks xD

dark temp vs bc? bc wins!
remember the new ability?

 

Looks like someone forgot, colossus do high damage to organic units, and crap damage to mechanical units. Not to mention, siege tanks do HUGE damage to big units.

edit: Those cruisers were damaged from the phoenix, and were spreading their damage out. Not to mention, all 3 rays attacked one cruiser while the other 2 tried to get around it. By the time the first one died, they didn't even get close. It was too damaged.

 

when did they say that colossi do lower damage to mechanical or higher to organic? i dont remember that

 

They do the same damage to both...The Colossus is meant to take down alot of smaller units (like marines/reapers/zerglings etc. etc.) so its damage will suffer vs things with high armor/hp values. However because it comes with so much health and shield it can take as much as it dishes out so even when faced with 1-2 siege tanks it'd still come out on top.

 

i think collosus has the same role that of the siege tanks, it need back up support. it need zealots or etc up front or else it is vulnerable against 3 or more medium to larger size units like the siege tanks and vikings in mech form.

12 warp rays vs 12 vikings? im not sure, but i can imagine vikings winning this one if they also attack the same warp ray at a time.

 

the vikings would be the same as the marines vs warp rays. 1 on 1, the warp rays win, but as you add more vikings, their chances dramatically increase, especially with focus fire.

 

Focus fire has often been hailed as a key tactic to take out overwhelming forces.
I'm wondering though, with the warp ray, could there not be times when you want the warp rays to not focus fire?
I'm thinking in the warp ray vs viking themes and the like, if it's a medium unit, or maybe even a larger unit, you'd want the damage bonuses (bonii?) of the warp rays to build up on a single unit.

 

yes, 12vs12 vikings and warp rays, i was referring to the vikings focus fire, the warp rays not focus firing. srry i didnt make that clear.

 

You were plenty clear, I was just thinking along different lines. If you walked up to a hard-core SC player who hadn't heard of the Warp Ray and said "I don't want you to focus fire. Make each of your units attack a single enemy unit", they'd laugh at you. It looks like Blizzard is trying to widen the strategic playing field subtlety as well

 

I agree with Phantom about the issue that the Phoenix would simply outlast the Vikings in a duel. Protoss on average have much more HP than the Terran units on the same tier, and it is likely that the Phoenix will also have more HP then the Vikings. So in a straight out duel without the Phoenx using Overlord, I agree now that Phoenix will probably be able to take down the Vikings.

 

i think overload is only effective against organic enemy and not on vikings and you have to use it in a certain position to use it effectively.

 

Overload only works on air units. All that happens is the pilots of the phoenix pour the whole ships energy into its weapons causing thier normal attack to hit every airborne target in the immediate area.

Biological/mechanical doesn't have any bearing on the power of the attack, but armor does.

 

I don't think that Overlord will only be effective vs Organic units. It will most likely be just like a normal attack, but it shoots every unit around it. That means, units with heavy armor like the BattleCruisers will receive minimal damage.

From what it looks, Vikings won't have much armor. It's role in the air is similiar to a light anti-air unit. Therefore, I think that Overlord would totally destroy the Vikings.

 

if you notice in the WWII demo, 3 phoenix cast their overload ability in the precise position and destroyed all 12-15 mutas(not sure about the number).

so like if those mutas were viking fighters then they will be destroyed too? i dont think so, i think overload may only be strong against weak organic air units or maybe just those with low armor. yah it can damage vikings but i dont think it can take out 12 of them with just 3 phoenix casting overload even in the right position .

 

they are probably gonna start with 1 or 2 since the germans said that it has more armor in air form and less in goliath form.