Poll: Which race will you play as your main in SC2?

im pro..i can play all race

 

*ignores motto*

Yeah, but its generally the same attack/defense wise

 

That doesn't mean it's true. If anything it means that people are just believing what someone else is telling them to believe, and not looking into it themselves.

Aesthetics and tech-trees aren't the way to go when determining replacements. It is the role of the units that determine what unit will replace that same role.
Also, you didn't answer my last question. If the Firebat was in the game, and it was built at the Factory like it was going to be, would you say it's the replacement for the old Firebat?

 

And that's why I will partially agree. But the blink gives it an inter-tier role, the Goon had trouble walking up a ramp (stupid AI..) while the Stalker won't be stopped by a wall.
Also, the Stalker has a damage bonus vs. armored units, which makes it less effective against Zerg and early biological units. IMO, it will be used very differently.

 

Zerg will still have armored units. The two defensive modifiers are light and armored, and not all Zerg are going to be classified as light. Obviously Zerglings will be light and stuff like the Ultralisk will be armored, but units like the Hydralisk could easily be classified as either light or armored. Regardless, they still have a powerful attack even against targets that aren't armored.
I think they'll be used in a similar way. Even though they're more fragile than the old Dragoons, but they'll be able to kite Zerg forces much more efficiently.

 

yeah im talking about lorewise
I'm sorry to inform you of this, but being the creators of the game, what they say goes.

 

Just because it gets an attack bonus vs armored enemies doesn't mean it's "less effective" vs zerg, it just means it's "better" vs most terran vehicles. I think it will be used quite frequently vs zerg.

 

@Itza. Of course... I mixed up biological/mechanical with light/armored, my bad. Thanks. Ultralisks and eggs etc. will obviously take extra damage from the Stalker.

@jrc. The bonus has to be balanced. A Stalker with no bonus has (just as an example) 15 damage, while the one with the bonus damage vs. armored would have perhaps 10+10 damage. 15+10/15 would be a little imbalanced.

My point is that it won't just be a little better vs. armored, it will also be a little weaker vs. light.

 

What do you mean by "one without bonus and one with bonus"? You can't have two stalkers at your base, with only one having bonus vs. armor?

 

That was an example.

You said that the Stalker wasn't really weak against light, only strong against armored.
But that can't be, that would not be balanced. Its attack vs. light would not be as strong as the Goons would have been.

 

Okay, that makes sense, but Blizzard could just lower the strength of another unit to balance it out.

 

Why? Then the other unit would be useless and the Stalker would be IMBA.

 

I love all SC races, but I won't lie I've always favored the Zerg so they are most defiantly going to be my first play.

 

whatever, but with your method, the stalker will be useless vs zerg. (crap that was what i was contradicting in the first place)

 

@ Itza: I wouldn't consider the Factory Firebat a replacement for the Barracks Firebat, I would consider them the same unit, although I'm not sure I know what your talking about. I don't remember hearing anything about a new Firebat, only that they weren't planning on putting it in.

@ Jrc & GMG: Keep in mind that Protoss are SUPPOSED to have more powerful units that cost more than the other 2 races. Most likely it will be strong against Zerg lower teir units (going on the assumption that armored zerg will be upper teir units) and even stronger against Zerg upper units and Terran

 

How can you say that you don't know what I'm talking about? The Firebat was in a recent build, and when it was removed the Marauder was put in. That is one of the reasons why you said the Marauder replaces the Firebat. Also, how could you not consider the Factory Firebat as a direct replacement to the old Firebat? They're the exact same unit except one is build from the Factory.
Here's another example. If the new unit that took the Siege Tank's spot on the Tech Tree was a pure, dedicated Ground-to-Air fighter, and the Siege Tank now occupied the Vulture's spot, would you consider this new Anti-Air unit to be the direct replacement of the Siege Tank?

 

Did you even read the post? I said that I thought that the Factory Firebat is the same thing as the Barracks Firebat, not a replacement.
As for the Siege Tank: You are taking my posts too literally. I don't mean that I'm specifically talking about the exact spot on the tech tree, but, as GMG said, lorewise.

 

To answer your question, yes, I did read your post.
If you're determining replacements lorewise, then why do you think the Marauder replaces the Firebat? There's no lore saying it does.

 

Read the rest of the sentence.

 

It will only be "useless" vs. light armored units. Every faction got those, so don't worry.
Even Zerg can have armored units.