Poll: Which race will you play as your main in SC2?

Inter tier units are a lot newer and more original concepts compared to the Thor and MS IMO.

 

Oh yeah i forgot abou the Colossus

 

They've already failed at that, one of the examples you gave is one of the reasons they've failed at that, not that they were trying to do it to begin with. The Goliath was the ultimate Ground-to-Air fighter, but the Viking is either Ground-to-Ground or Air-to-Air. Besides, what would be the reason for them to keep everything the same?

 

They aren't...
It's common knowledge what unit is replacing what unit.
Did you just see that article that was posted on the home page of this site?

 

Yes, I have seen it, and I happen to disagree with it strongly.
Firebats were extremely effective against small units. A single one could rip through a small bunch of Zerglings in no time flat. Now, we don't even know how strong the Marauder's attack is, but on the other hand we do know that the ground Viking has a fast attack and has a damage bonus against light armored units. That's a pretty good replacement for the Firebat don't you think? The Goliath had a shoddy Ground-to-Ground attack, so why think that it has been replaced with a strong Ground-to-Ground attacker? The Goliath's main attack and use was for Ground-to-Air, but the Viking is either Ground-to-Ground or Air-to-Air.

 

I am always use Protoss as my main, but I will use some terran, maybe.

 

lol we out number you itza
more ppl would agree with that thread than side w/ you

 

So what's your point? Is that supposed to make me wrong?
The only thing that the Viking has in common with the Goliath is that it's a mech. The Goliath didn't have a strong Ground-to-Ground attack, and the Viking has a strong and specialized one. The Viking's Ground-to-Ground attack deals extra damage against light armored units, which is extremely similar to the Firebat which, because it had a concussive damage type, was only effective against small units. The Goliath had a devastating Ground-to-Air attack, and the Viking does not. The Viking only has an Air-to-Air attack which is more effective against capital ships than smaller ships so it isn't a good counter against Phoenixes or Mutalisks, unlike the Goliath, which would have been.
With the Firebat to the Marauder, the only reasons I can see that they've been linked is that the Marauder replaced that Firebat and that they share the same skin. The Firebat was extremely weak against large targets and buildings and the Marauder gets a bonus against armored units. The Firebat had a concussive damage type meaning that it only dealt 25% damage against large targets. the Marauder gets a damage bonus against armored unit types, so is almost the opposite of the Firebat in this regard. Another completely different attack effect that the Marauder has, is the slowing effect.
Summarizing...
Links between Goliath and Viking:

• Both are mechs
• Both could attack ground and air

Differences between Goliaths and Vikings:

• The Viking has a stronger, specialized Ground-to-Ground attack
• The Viking can only attack air targets from the air
• The Viking is an infantry and capital ship counter
• The Goliath was an air counter

Links between Firebat and Marauder:

• The Marauder was designed after the Firebat was scrapped
• The Marauder currently uses the Firebat's skin

Differences between Firebat and Marauder:

• The Marauder has a slowing effect
• The Firebat was weak against large targets and buildings
• The Marauder is has a damage bonus against armored units

The Viking is a much more suitable replacement to the Firebat due to their anti-infantry role. As for the Marauder, it is a brand new unit entirely.

 

lol maybe you should type up an article and submit it to a mod

 

I take it, by your response, that you agree with me now?

 

meh i s'pose i might lean a little more towards your side
ill admit, you know ur stuff

 

So have you scrapped your 'it's common knowledge knowing what unit is replacing what unit' philosophy? Or do you still believe that the Marauder is the direct replacement to the Firebat?
Also, just out of curiosity, what other units do you think have been directly replaced by a new unit? I'm not saying that you'll be wrong, I'm just curious.

 

I voted Zerg. Live for the Swarm!

 

oh no i still think the marauder is a replacement for the firebat
what you are tinking is that im talking about what is replacing the firebat's role, but im actually talking about what is really replaceing it
the maruader will take its place as secondary ground unit, same spot on the tech tree i assume, same size as the firebat, same cost maybe.
The viking has the two arms for weapons just as the goliath did, again i assume it will be in the same spot on the teck tree as the gol, etc.
see what im getting at?

 

So you're purely talking about what units will be placed where? That has little to do with how that unit works, will be used, etc. When talking about direct replacements you have to talk about what old unit's role will be taken by which new unit.
Also, if that's the way you were thinking, do you think that the Immortal replaces the Dragoon? According to the article you referred to, it is, but according to what units takes what spot on the tech tree, it isn't.

EDIT: Also, if the Firebat was in the game, and it was built at the Factory like it was going to be, would you say it's the replacement for the old Firebat?

 

Fyi: the way im thinking is how most everyone else thinks
Thats why most would agree wit that article
Search the internet for starcraft 2 unit replacemtents and you will get the same thing
And yes i think the immortal is replacing the dragoon, not because of the tech tree this time, but because blizzard directly stated it is, and the fact that it looks like the goon (4 leg thing).

 

Sure Zerg. With "Hold Fire" for Lurkers. Mmmm....

 

I am not one of them, it seems.

Blizzard directly stated that it lorewise replaces the Dragoon. But gameplay-wise, the Immortal is so much different from the Goon IMO. One of the Goons greatest fears was the Siege Tank, but in Starcraft2 the Siege Tanks greatest fear is the Immortal. The Immortal is slower and cannot even shoot at air.

 

So, GMG, do you think that the Stalker will directly replace the Dragoon's role?

 

Most people think so, and I partially think so. Most stats are the same, and it can attack both ground and air etc. But, it can blink. That alone makes such a huge difference IMO.