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Pet Overhaul

Discussion in 'Forum Shop and Battle.Arcade' started by kuvasz, Mar 7, 2009.

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What's your opinion on the topic?

  1. Go ahead as is.

    10 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. Go ahead, but maybe...

    3 vote(s)
    18.8%
  3. Do not go ahead.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. I don't care about pets.

    3 vote(s)
    18.8%

Pet Overhaul

Discussion in 'Forum Shop and Battle.Arcade' started by kuvasz, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    Finally some reason :p I can't do anything about the angle apart from using a different render, of which there is none.
     
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    MarineCorp New Member

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    I like the carrier, it looks like a sword of some sort. :>
     
  3. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    Quite a nice turnup at the polls. Now, we really should get on with this I think. I can't do much about the carrier except make it smaller, which I don't think is viable. DT pets suck I know, along with most of the Zerg ones. But I have a feeling the shop is specifically waiting for these icons...

    edit: oh, yeah, I'll post smaller infantry and possibly a few other changes soon.
    edit2:

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    Not perfect, but this carrier is much better
     
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    ItzaHexGor Active Member

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    Out of those changes, I'd say the previous Ghost looked better, but all the others have definitely improved. I don't see anything horribly wrong with the Dark Templar, nor with the Zerg. You're probably just judging them harshly because you're the one who made them. Dunno if there's a name for that or not, but I suffer from it all the time, for one. :p

    My judgement... One by one:

    Zealot - Great.
    Colossus - Great. Perhaps zoom out a bit to capture scale.
    Double-scythe Dark Templar - Great.
    High Templar - Great.
    Immortal - Great.
    Carrier - You've already fixed it. Great, now.
    Mothership - Great.
    Nullifier - Good. Just looks a touch off-centre.
    Wrist-blade Dark Templar - Not as good as the other Dark Templar. Looks like there's a bit of a problem with the lighting and angle.
    Observer - Great.
    Phoenix - Good. Perhaps a tad higher.
    Probe - Great.
    Stalker - Good. Perhaps closer and centred on the face more.
    Void Ray - Great.
    Warp Prism - Great.

    Fighter Viking - Great.
    Banshee - Good. Perhaps centred more on the cockpit.
    Marine - Fixed. Great, now.
    Siege Tank - Good. Perhaps centred a touch more.
    Medivac - Great.
    Reaper - Great.
    Ghost - I think the size and focus are better in the original.
    Nighthawk - Great.
    Battlecruiser - Perhaps edited in a similar manner to the Carrier. Basically needs to be zoomed out more, i reckon.
    Jackal - Good, but I doesn't seem to be as defined as some of the other images.
    Mule - Obviously a hard one to get. Focus, detail and colour just don't seem to fit with the other Terran images.
    Marauder - Good. It is huge, though, so perhaps a midpoint needs to be found between the sizes of the old and edited images.
    Thor - Great.
    SCV - Great.
    Walker Viking - Great.

    Infester/Infestor - Great. Obviously will need to be changed soon though.
    Queen - Great.
    Overlord - Great.
    Zergling - Good. Perhaps a bit too low in the image.
    Roach - Great, though wondering what image you used.
    Overseer - Great.
    Hydralisk - Great.
    Ultralisk - Great.
    Nydus Worm - Good, though perhaps needs to be larger. Might need to be scrapped soon anyway though.
    Drone - Great.
    Baneling - Great.
    Swarm Guardian - Great. Looks a lot like the Lurker though, haha.
    Corrupter - Great.
    Larva - Fixed. Great, now.
    Mutalisk - Good. Perhaps a bit too high up.
    Lurker - Great. Obviously will need to be changed soon, too.

    Hope that helps!
     
  6. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    I think I implemented everything from that list, but I still don't know what to do with the one-bladed DT. There is no other render of it, and the underlying problem is angle, which I can't change.

    With Kerwyn nearing the phase in the work with the shop where pets are needed, I will be creating the final versions and sending them to him somehow. Crap icons are better than nothing :D Until Sunday evening (i.e., about 20 hours from now) I accept moans and wishes.
     
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    If you aren't happy with the render you have used up to now, then why don't you use some of the Dark Templar artwork until you can get your hands on a render you are satisfied with?

    I have one suggestion by the way. Since the items are all gone, why not have some unique or very limited -pets- of kerrigan, raynor, zeratul, tassadar, raszagal etc.
     
  8. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    Damn I wanted to do those too. Thanks for reminding me :D Although I think they'd be better as they were, like statues, dolls, sculptures, etc. Heroes as pets sounds a little irreverent of them :p

    Maybe throw in a few critters, too, and if Kerwyn doesn't want them then he'll just skip them. And I thought I could sit back... :D I think we should keep pets SC2 themed... we don't know anything about SC2 critters.
     
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  9. Aurora

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    Hehe, no problem. If you need me, I will be sitting back to watch family guy. ;)

    Browsing forums on a phone while watching tv is so awesome.

    But seriously. If you put in some critters, then they will all be from sc:bw. I thought everything was supposed to be sc2? And I assume the list itza posted was a list of everything, but the archon is missing. Have you done that one yet?
     
  10. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    I have... but it seems I didn't post it with the lot in the first post. It's just a blue sphere so... :D

    And yes, everything is supposed to be sc2, hence the strikethrough ;)
     
  11. Aurora

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    Lol, my typing was so slow that you edited that in while I was still typing my message. Crappy buttons.

    Good thing that Archons are in, though. I used to have 1 or 2, not sure anymore.
     
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    Why not make each of the different racial units have different shapes of borders/the outline thingy (my mind's dead atm) such as terrans have square, protoss have a circle and zerg have a distorted shape of some sort.
    just an idea, you don't have to do it :>
     
  13. Aurora

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    Sounds cool, but since they all still need to be the same size. --thinking-- That means that protoss and zerg would have less space for the actual portrait. Still sounds stylish, although I would rather have the avatar frames back.
     
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    If you're going to do racial borders i think they should be like the borders on the ingame UI, same shape just different look.

    I would also prefer avatar frames. :D
     
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    i just want my ghost:(
     
  16. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    Mini poll time again: I'm asking your opinions on the pets below. First is the current one, second with -40, third with -60 saturation, to make 1st editions more preferred over normal pets.

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  17. Aurora

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    Hmm, if you are using saturation, then do it 100%. Less then that makes it look like the image quality is just really low. And how are you desaturizing them? I hope you are not using the saturation slide bar thing...

    Desaturated images are a great idea, though. They look less messy then having two different borders.
     
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    the middle ones. -40.
     
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    The ones to the left for first edition, and the ones to the right for second edition.
     
  20. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    Gassy the left ones are the first edition ones ;) with the blue frame of course.

    Forsaken: there's nothing wrong with the saturation bar, and AFAIK there isn't even another way to do it. If you're talking about going all the way to desaturating it then yes, black/white works better than the saturation slider. But I definitely won't fully desaturate non-1st editions. Also the frame distinction would stay... the reduced saturation would only serve to emphasise the differences between the two types of pets.