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Pearce Says Fourth Race Possible in Expansion

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by MeisterX, Aug 29, 2008.

Pearce Says Fourth Race Possible in Expansion

  1. MeisterX

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    But it's not truthfully "speculation." It's what a Blizzard rep expects to happen.

    Is Karune saying that the Stalker's model might change "speculation"? No, we take that as fact.

    I will judge the quality of sources. I judge this one to be pretty solid. What I trust most about this article is that there will be an expansion, not so much the fourth race.
     
  2. kuvasz

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    -1 for UED from me as well. It wouldn't be a completely new race - it would be the equivalent of making the dark Protoss a new race - quite boring if you ask me.As a side note, and I have limited knowledge in terms of SC story and lore, if UED stands for United Earth Directorate, I have no idea why people say they'd be more advanced than Terran, who have more experience living in space and had much harsher circumstances in which they had to make a stand.

    That said, I can't think of any truly genuine race as a 4th one right now, but it'd be quite some work to come up with it since the whole concept would have to go back to the very basics of human/advanced alien+robot/primitive alien thing. The three already cover our imagination if we're after truly genuine races, in my opinion. That is if we exclude such proposals as evil mole people and such.

    In case Blizzard comes to the conclusion that their concept race wouldn't be diverse enough compared to the existing three, I hope Blizzard won't hesitate to stick with three races.
     
  3. zeratul11

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    i believe a 4th/5th race would be better and make starcraft more awesome. It will expand the universe of starcraft which is a good thing.

    do you think sc will still have 3 races 10-20 years from now like in sc3 or sc4? i doubt it. ofcourse a new race is inevitably bound to happen in future sc games or else it be pretty much be boring etc. Well it is certain in sc3, but why not in the expansion for sc2 if they can do it, waiting 10 more years is history. its about time.
     
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    You won't get your wish.

    StarCraft isn't Warcraft. In the latter, there were entire unexplored continents, and so many races anyway. In StarCraft, none of the races we hardly know anything about (eg kalathi) are big players, and new races in Warcraft often tick off the fans anyway. (Does anyone recall the name of the new, winged race in the Beyond the Dark Portal novel?) Blizzard has to establish some good lore for a new race first.

    As for the StarCraft books, they've only mentioned the three base races, xel'naga and some strange creations. No new races. So where would a new race come from?
     
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    There would be an issue "if" they made a new race in the sc2 expansion; Some people will probably loath a "new race" and stick with just sc2. Others will love it. So they would probably be a group playing sc2 and another group playing sc2 expansion.
    So I for one, think that they shouldn't make a new race until sc3. But we're just speculating right? So if the story line for sc2 is really REALLY good, then ill wouldn't mind a 4th race. We'll see how it goes.

    Other than that, yay for sc2 expansion!! xD
     
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    What should that fourth race be anyway?
    UED? Lore wise they are technology superior to the Terrans, so they would break the balance between Zerg, Protoss and Terran
    Hybrids? Again, lore wise they have to be superior to both Zerg and Protoss
    Xel'naga? On the one hand they helped several races (something we haven't seen yet?) to evolve and created the temples, on the other hand they were mostly destroyed by the Zerg
    The energy creatures from the books? Absorbing attacks, Terrans, Protoss, Zerg, Nukes, fleets and so on instantly would be kinda op ...
     
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    I would love the 4th race to be the protoss/zerg hybrid from the idea talked about in the SC 1 bonus mission. Well that's if a 4th race has to be added in. And as a 2nd choice if that can't be done I'd go for the Xelnaga. I'm against the UED cause it's still humans. And I think SC is good cause the first 3 races are so different from each other. Unlike WArcraft 2&3 and the AOE series. And I think the 4th should be radically different too.
     
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    What about the race that the Xel'Naga created from the novels, i think they were called Pheonix or something, and i am 100% sure that i am not making this up
     
  9. Hmmm.. I don't remember anything like that from the books, and I've read them all.

    Can you refresh my memory? If this is true, I would really like to know. I'm a big StarCraft lore fan.
     
  10. Kimera757

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    In Shadow of the Xel'Naga, there was an energy creature which was similar to a phoenix (the mystical bird, not the protoss unit), which hatched out of a xel'naga temple.

    There's no evidence it will be in the game.

    Details: http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_creature
     
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    well lorewise the ued and xelnaga are powerful but when you put and play them on multiplayer or skirmish maps everything is still balance just like the protoss powerful unit one on one but costly etc.

    just like in wc3, in the campaign or lore the undeads are powerful and they are threatening all other races but in normal multiplayer or single player skirmishes everything is balance it all depends on the player skills. yeh, you know what im saying.
     

  12. Hmmm.. Yes ... I remember that, but for some reason I figured it was one of the Xel'Naga. Thank you for clarifying.
     
  13. MeisterX

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    I think it would make an interesting single player dynamic if a fourth race was introduced that forced the three factions to unit against it.

    Enter Xel'Naga.

    Just not playable.... yet.
     
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    The fourth race would be the Xel'Naga. Remember what Zeratul said to Raynor : " the Xel'Naga have returned". So we know most of us that the Xel'Naga are a unique race that speeded up the evolutions for the Zerg and for the Protoss.

    So the Xel'Naga are back according to Zeratul. This fourth race is back, eventually as a playable race for the expansion set ! But we don't even know if he talked about the Hybrids. We don't know if he MEANT that the Hybrids are the Xel'Naga. He met one hybrid in Brood War. Was the hybrid a xel'naga ? We still don't know !
     
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    but what will be the gameplay role of the 4th race? the Zergs are about quantity over quality, while the Protoss are the opposite, the Terrans are best said as the Glass Cannon, so could it be the opposite of a Glass Cannon? lots of health but low damage?
     
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    I'm about to muddy the waters again.

    At one place in the book, the creature is referred to as a "xel'naga hatchling". It could have meant something along the lines of "a human pet" referring to a pet dog owned by a human, rather than a human enslaved by another species and forced to act like a pet! That book was so poorly written...

    Considering it needed protoss and zerg DNA to mature, and the xel'naga existed before they encountered the protoss and zerg, it doesn't make sense that the xel'naga would need protoss and zerg DNA to grow up.

    More on topic: The xel'naga might be too powerful to be a playable race. These guys have insanely powerful temples that can make a whole planet dark and wipe out all the zerg on said planet and once (probably) wiped out all the air on the world of Nemaka. (See Firstborn.)

    I would expect the xel'naga to be very few in number, but have very powerful abilities based on technology, psionics or both.
     
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    The Protoss can burn entire planets too
    Chau Sara, Mar Sara, Tarsonis

    Noone says they are too powerful because they don't bring that kind of weapons of mass destruction to the fight in just any battle.
     
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    yes it was that one...i thought it was a race :O but reading it from the sc wiki did interest me
     
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    but the zerg destroyed several xel'naga world ships and most of the xel'naga themselves well before they were as evolved, and primitive protoss killed hundreds and forced them to leave Aiur before that.


    sounds too much like protoss.
     
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    Not exactly so.

    UED could have had a massive setback from the last mission in broodwars. They could have the technologies to do things, but lack the raw materials and manpower to do so. As their ass was pretty heavily beat on by the zerg then. So they'd have to make do with what resources/people they could find. And that'd help them be more in line balanc wise with the main 3.

    Hybrids? Well whoever or whatever created them could have screwed up. And made an unstable creature that multiplied through out the galaxy. Therefore good in some aspects and bad in others. Bringing in into like with the other 3 power wise.

    Xel'naga? If the zerg and protos beat down on them ages ago in history seems they aren't all that god like as we are led to believe. Sure they are masters of creating races. But maybe not of defending themselves. And who says they had to create the races methodically like a scientist or with magic/auras. They could be a little like the strog from Quake. As in they just take random creatures they find and experiment on them. Shoving parts here and there and not really caring for the creatures themselves, only the end result. I don't know how this works out lorewise. But ancient powers don't last for ever. Well they do but they get superseded by better and better technologies/ideas. So now after all these years they could be just on par with the other 3.

    A 2nd Xel'naga option? That they were all in some stasis/hybernation for a few millennia and when they all woke up there was war raging around them. And had to quickly ready the troops and workers to fight for them. And as such could only bring some of their technologies to the battlefield.