November Monthly Discussion Topic: The Terran Ghost

Yeah I know I mentioned that. But it's not a nuke. It would be smaller, strike faster, and cost less to build. Mini-nuke I guess.

Another idea is like the ability to plant remote mines...but that's too redundant with the reaper's ability.

Really every idea seems redundant after a while, and some of that you just have to live with. I mean come on...isn't the Goliath just a giant marine? And the Ultralisk is just a giant zergling?

 

The nuke used in SC is a "mini-nuke." It's called a tactical Nuclear Strike.

A full-on Nuke would wipe the map clean.

 

BOOM!

"We called down the thunder, but I don't think the base took it too well"

 

The Goliath is more of an mobile GTA turret than a giant marine, since it does 32 damage to air when fully upgraded. The Ultralisk then is not a giant zergling, for it doesn't have the attack strength of a zergling force built with equal resources. However, it has the most hit points on the ground, and that makes it good for attacking heavily defended bases, where zergling would be slaughtered due to siege tanks and colossus (by the way, is the plural for colossus just colossus or something else? I've been thinking that, but haven't got a clue).

 

haha rejecting ideas

hmm ... well, i also think nuke and strike = redundant and agree that the marine to goliath comparisons rnt really accurate,

i never used the emp much
I see wut u mean, missile and ghost dont really mix, but i could see it as a missile from a THOR
drop pods r interesting, but im not quite sure about them. now i hear that u can load em up, so they kinda lessen the purpose of dropships to just vehichles

(srry for offtopicyness)
BTW u think u can transport a THOR?
i think u should, but it would take TWO DROPSHIPS and the thor wouldnt dissappear inside, it would be SUSPENDED BELOW them in the air while moving and the dropships would moves SLOWER and if one drop dies, the whole thing crashes and DIES

thatway it wouldnt be too cheap do make THOR drops because...
1 theyll see that its a THOR being transd
2 itll move slower
3 they just need to kill 1 ship and it dies

 

I think it will be the same as the colossus, it would fill one whole dropship. The colosus is the same size, and it takes a whole phase prism to transport it.

 

*cough* liftoff *cough*

BTW, this topic is about the Ghost, so let's try to stick with that.

 

Yes, I agree, but People keep saying stuff is redundant when it really isn't, which is my point. A Goliath is a LOT more similar to a marine than a Thor is to a Siege Tank, for instance. (P.S. Plural for Collossus is Collossi)

Anyways,

That Ghost overview shed some interesting light on this discussion. I think I'm back to my stance that

EMP should go back to the Nomad.

Ghosts should have (way) more energy and a bit less HP

Snipe shouldn't be a special ability. I think Snipe should be the ghosts normal attack, just toned down and with a really really slow rate of fire. Like a siege tank with no AOE that's only effective against light armor.

Drop pods should be removed (c'mon, it's useless) UNLESS they could be loaded with firebats ^^

D8 mines should be a ghost ability and NOT a reaper ability.

The overall price should be bumped up.

 

I reckon drop pods should be able to be loaded with any combination of infantry (marine, medic, firebat, ghost or reaper), it wouldn't make sense for them to have the technology to do so and then not actually do it. They take up the same space and require the same upkeep etc.

And BTW, I think the plural of colossus is actually just colossus. I thought about that for awhile too, like octopus becomes octopi, cactus => cacti, but what about fetus? That becomes fetuses. It'll be one of those things where the plural is the same as singular, such as with sheep or moose.

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/colossus

It lists the plural form.

 

Touche. So colossi or colossuses it is!

 

Emp to Nomad - agree. It was working well back in SC 1.

Ghost's Energy up, hit points down - agree. I think that 75 Ore/75 Gas 75 HP/200 Energy will be ok. Just give ghost some useful & interesting ability.

Snipe-not-a-special-ability - rather disagree. It's too strong for basic attack. But as requiring energy i would give it 'ignore Protoss Shields' characteristic (delivering damage directly to hit points)

Drop Pods - agree. You should decide what type of infantry will be launched in drop-pod. Also, I would increase number of droped units from 6 to 8.
Another thing: It's so late-game ability that earlier unit should have it, like
Marine - most used unit, Drop-Pod as a mid game upgrade
or Firebat - isn't he corporal? It'll balance their inability to deal with aerial units (just call bunch of friendly marines)
or Medic - the strongest choice. Terran Infantry Support Unit. Instead of Blind (which should go to Nomad as Nova-like spell) Medic should call reinforcements. Smart. Simple. Devious

Ghost has D8 charges - disagree. It's good where it is. In case of Reaper being out, I would give it to Firebats as Demolition Charges (thus making Firebats Demolitions Experts)

Ghost higher cost - well, it belongs what abilities would have final Ghost.

 

I don't know why nobody agrees with me about the D8 charges. It's such a ghost thing, planting explosives on buildings.... And it would make firebats kinda ridiculous.