New VS: Starcraft universe vs Warhammer 40K universe

As mentioned before, this is science fiction where reality and phsyics have pretty much been shot out the window. Both possess thier own different sets of rules on reality which deviate greatly from physics. SC deviates from it as well thus making your "starcraft is more real" claim completely fallicous and false. The proof? Look at the claims of hyersonic speeds on 8mm gauss rounds. Thier is overwhelming evidence that points to it being otherwise. First in the brood war cutscene, where a marine is seen shooting two zerglings but do jack all to displace them from thier spots despite the rounds moving at such a vicous speed. Now one would most likely just say "the Zerg's carapace is that durable" Wrong again. In that same cutscene the Zerglings get destroyed by a less then decent grenade. Yet said grenade does nothing to displace water or dirt. Especially in such an enclosed trench it does nothing to the surrounding environment. That right there is a deviation from normal physics. Also please note that as per shadow of the Xel'naga Zerglings can be killed by farmers with pitchforks. That right there is also contradiction on a grand scheme. So before making the claims of what is realer or not real, do your research before jumping to stupid conclusions.

Said Terran Marine does not even match up to the level of a Space Marine. Terran Marines do not even stand an iota of a chance of being bigger then the 40k universe.

A population of 23 billion vs the Quadrillions of the Imperium. Billions upon Billions of Zerg compared to the trillions of Tyranids in a single fleet. Whats this about the SC universe being bigger? Because last I checked the MIB universe theory was only limited to the laws of the MIB universe itself. Said theory would not even exist outside the univrse.

 

Why are people still arguing about this? I said earlier along with others that Starcraft -as loved as it is- wouldn't stand up to something that incredibly far into the future.

I wish I was a moderator and could lock this because people don't seem to get above sentence.
But then,when somebody supports Starcraft with a paragraph or so, people just quote parts of it and tell them how WH40K would demolish it.

 

I would lock it, but I haven't been following the conversation and really don't feel like reading pages upon pages of dissertations on starcraft and warhammer 40k, especially since everything about warhammer is absolute gibberish to me, as I have never played it. If another mod wants to read it they can. If you guys get enough PMs to me that you want it locked I could justify locking it without reading 8 pages of Greek (to me). At least I think it would justify it.

 

Uber marine that gets killed by a stupid grot.... WOW.... its so great....

Bigger.. i mean its just BIGGER.... one marine stomps entire warhammer gallaxy under his foot.... crash and bye bye

 

By all means then. Prove it. Prove it with canonical evidence that a terran marine has indeed shown such a power level at all, and also by all means prove that in fluff that a marine got killed by a grot. Go on then, prove it.

 

U saw SC2 trailer ??

Marine armour > SM armour....

Grots... there was a grot revolution series... a bunch of grots rapid fired a terminator squad and wiped them out :]

COOL.... same way as vets rapid fire with Plazma any SM,... wow... its soooo useful to make an army of enchanced warriors that are sxpensive like hell and die like maggots.... har har har...

SM are so off in this seazon...

 

Warhammer people guess what really StarCraft has Lazers (but never put it in the game like the Wraith)and how would Warhammer be able to live and kill all Zerg on Char Char is a plant of Volcanoes and ash how would they live?

 

This argument is pointless because those that argue that starcraft would win don't understand the warhammer universe and will never concede the point.

 

I cant believe you...your a trader to the StarCraft universe!

 

The SC 2 trailer does absolutely nothing to prove their armor capabilities in no way whatsoever. All that is shown in that trailer is the absurdly long amount of time it takes for a terran marine to place on his armor, and it only further shows how incompetent Marines really are. They smoke within their helmets for petes sake

Which is not even supported on the official Black Library site making such a series and such an arguement invalid.

Yet again. Such an arguement is highly invalid seeing as how its not supported by the black libary. And of course the most obvious reason to have such over the top troops is because everybody else is over the top with inane levels of powers.

A lasgun, lance, lascannon, melta-gun, does not qualify as lasers? Also, saying they have lasers is useless seeing as how you fail to actually benchmark thier power with some feasible evidence.

The same way that the deal any other worlds that have severely harsh environments. Throw on the rebreather mask much like they do on the planet Armageddon which is clogged up with so much crap in the atmosphere that denizens are forced to wear thier own rebreather mask to survive. And yes, there is life thriving on such a planet even with the yearly megastorms. Hell even Space Marines purposely throw themselves on desert worlds or iceworlds where barely any life lives, only for the sake of training.

 

Stick ur BL into ur.. boots and get higher :] By the GAME rules Plazma weapons are able to instagib any SM...

AND IT IS THE F&@#@# GAME THAT MAkES THE FLUFF NOT SOME FRIGGIN NOVELS WRITTEN BY JERKS THAT GOT GWs BLESSING TO WRITE ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR WORLD..... just now new Chaos Dex came out... and the Fluff regarding chaos changed.. so most of the novels are OLD and INVALID.... sadly :]

And most players says that BlackLibrary novels are crap and they kinda dont fit with the orginal fluff :]

So what ? SM are stupid and unable to think for themselves and they wontbe able to understand anything...
A Terran marine is at least capable if finding alteranate way to act, not stupidly DIE FOR THE EMPEROR....

Ur boring... u cant think of anything but "Black Library Novels" that are loosly tied to the Warhammer uniwerse and such crap. Read Wh40k rulebook, read dexes, and than say something about OVERPOWERDNESS of weapons and technology...

Bye bye... have a nice day :]

 

So rather then address the issue at hand, or for that matter even properly address any of my post properly, you would much rather make some rather stupid attack in denial of the fact that the novels of the black library are actually fluff?


By the GAME rules Plazma weapons are able to instagib any SM...[/QUOTE] Must I illustrate just how stupid it is to use any amount of game mechanics at all in order to actually quantify anything? In one of the older editions, heroes used to annihilate armies like crazy being the sole "rambo" force that can chomp through entire armies. This of course has been retconned where now while they still can get in good hits they are far more killable. This change demonstrates just how stupid it is to use TT as fluff, given the fact that stats and numbers tend to get changed for individual units and will still be likely be changed yet again and again. In the end Tabletop cannot be used as fluff because of this. Apply this to Starcraft and its obvious why Ingame mechanics cannot be used to quantify any amount of fluff at all.

Face it, black library is actually canonical material from the Warhammer 40,000 universe. Black Library itself, makes the statement that Black Library material is as a matter of fact fluff/canon. Hell, even outside of those boards, Black Library material is simply accepted as fluff. Given the majority vote of people saying that Black Library is fluff and the official Black Library forums stating that thier stuff is fluff, what credibility do you have in your statements at all?

And neither is it supposed to fit with the original fluff. Remember Rogue Trader? It was about hired fleets from the Imperium seeking out new world's with thier own personal army. And now look at it.

Dogma and common sense are two different things. The second is something that Terran Marines severely lack, first off by impairing thier vision by smoking within thier helmets, strafing thier guns wildly at such close range while uselessly emptying out thier entire clip, not bringing vital vehicle support when travelling on foot on a planet in the Korpulu sector etc etc. And what the hell do you mean when you say that SM's cannot think for themselves? One was able to survive behind enemy lines by himself for a year before being found again.

Do you actually bother to even think as to where they die for the emperor? In battles against Aliens and heretics that threaten the Imperium. When there is indeed a threat to the Imperium it only makes sense to counter that threat by any means necessary. Is this concept so hard to grasp?

Codex's still support my claim of just how over the top 40k really is:

Likewise.

 

starcraft 2 WINS.

 

This topic makes me want to punch a dog in the eye.

 

Topic Locked: This is a Starcraft forum, therefore Starcraft wins.