New Colossus Attack

Yes, but that one looks ridiculous.

 

Yes, old beam with AoE, that would suit the colossus IMO.

 

The exact same thing has happened again.
Here, it states that the Colossus dealt 144 damage per second.
It is cited, but I cannot get to the citation because I don't have a Battle.net account.
Here, it shows the Colossus dealing much more that 24 damage per second to both Zerglings and Banelings.
Now can someone please finally rectify where they are getting the information that it only dealt 24 damage per second, without just saying 'it dealt 24 damage per second' for the umpteenth time.

 

Stated Colossus dmg/beam: 144
Presumed Zergling HP: 35
144 / 35 ~ 4

4 zerglings killed per beam. Seems about right?

 

Try now, I've redone the link.

 

Important to note is that the zerglings are already damaged by the zealots. So I don't see how this video disproves the theory of 144 dmg?

Edit: And PLEASE STOP confusing "damage" with "damage per second" or "dps".
Again, 144 damage over 6 seconds makes for 24 damage - per - second.

 

Most of the Zerglings that the Colossi are targeting aren't even in combat yet, and the same goes for the Banelings. I am not confusing damage with damage per second. Read the first link.

 

@ItzaHexGor

I was actually referring to the person who wrote the wikipedia input. THEY obviously misinterpreted dmg with dps. It is not a viable source.

Besides, isn't this a very unnecessary discussion since the attack isn't even around any more?

 

Please read the whole post before replying

Wiki's might be shoddy, but they aren't when they're cited.

You still haven't rectified it. You've just said I'm wrong, which is what has happened every time I've asked people where they get this information from.
The attack is about the old and new Colossus attack. This is still a necessary discussion seeing as, apparently, no-one is able to prove that the Colossus deals 24 damage per second, and if they are, they're choosing not to show us. I'da thought it'd have been a fairly simple question to ask, 'where did you find this out?' so why is it taking so long for it to be answered properly? I'm not angry at anyone, I'm just getting frustrated that the only responses I'm getting are either 'it deals 24 damage per second' or 'it doesn't deal 144 damage per second'.

 

Really im not gonna look at it, but 144 dps, isnt that OP?
And the link from the wikia sites shows nothing (i have an account).

 

Battle.net is in no way a more viable source than anywhere else, if anything, it's riddled with kids who don't know the first thing about what they are discussing. Which in term makes Wikipedia equally unreliable since they quote Battle.net.

For the "umpteenth" time: I didn't state that your facts were wrong, only that you might have confused dmg with dps. The 24dps is only a derivation of the 144dmg/beam which came somewhere from the SC2 build at blizzcon. This is all I know.

 

Ayzee it was Karune who should have said it, so read carefully before you write back please.

 

I know that's all you know, and it has been mentioned several times. What I want to know, again, is where are you getting all this information? You say that the sources I'm using are inaccurate, yet you have none. I'd say that the Battle.net citation is pretty reliable, seeing as the poster that is cited is Karune. I assume the thread has been moved, changed or deleted since then. Having unreliable sources is better than having none.
So, again, for the umpteenth time.... where is everyone getting this information about the Colossus' damage per second? I'm seriously shocked that I had to ask this many times.

 

@furrer, Itza

I could simply have written nothing since I don't have the exact facts you are looking for. Instead I chose to be helpful and answer to the best of my ability and also clarify some stuff, which was the following.

- I'm pretty sure Karune did NOT say 144dps and have been misunderstood by the person who wrote on Wikipedia, therefore I advise against stating it as a source.

I don't understand why you are arguing with ME? I never cared to rectify anything, nor did I intend to provide any certain source. I was simply advising against your sources. So YOU might want to read before you post.

So to avoid any further confusion, I'll kindly butt out and let you work stuff out. Good luck.

 

144 dps sounds overpowered but I would so love to have it ;D I mean, it can be hit by both air and ground so... better make it worth the trouble.

 

thats wasnt wikipedia Ayzee... That was starcraft.wikia...
And if you dont call that a source, what do you then call it?
And just go, it seems like its to hard for you to discuss with the big boys.

 

Itza, I saw the battle.net post from Karune it said the Collosus did 144 damage. What it did not specifiy was what the time period for this damage was. However if you observe the Protoss gameplay video or ask poeple from Blizzcon the Colollosus's attack lasted around 6 secs. Thats where the 24 dps comes from. I don't have the video with me at school but I absolutly do not remember the Collosus killing units as fast as you seem to be describing. (I will check this when I get home however) I can tell you this though 144 dps would be absurdly overpowered so it is unlikely that is how much dps they were doing.

Either way though this argument is completely irrellevant because that is not even how the Collosus attacks anymore and even it was these number are very likely to change for balance reasons.

 

Yeah I first saw it in the zerg reveal and immediately had two thoughts, "Hmm so they changed the attack" and "Eww".

That attack just plain sucks and is too busy (ie clutters up the screen) IMO.

 

Indeed. And Blizzard said they was trying to minimize screen clutter. Lul.

 

I am arguing with you because you kept on replying to my question without answering what I was asking and by giving the same information that you'd given before. I made a count, you replied in the exact same way several times.

• Here is your initial statement. I have nothing against this, you just stated what you knew, and there's nothing wrong with that.
• Here, after I specifically highlighted my question, you repeated that it dealt 144 damage per beam.
• Here you mentioned the video briefly, and went on to repeat that it dealt 144 damage per beam rather than per second.
• Here you state that Wiki is an unreliable source, yet don't state any of your own. Wiki is a better source than not having any at all.
• Here you say that Battle.net is an unreliable source, and repeat that it dealt 24 damage per second, again.

My question asked for a source. I asked where people were getting this information. If you repeatedly tried to answer the question, but had no intention of providing any source, what are you trying to achieve?

I don't understand what you're saying I missed or misread in your post. What I do understand is that you're saying these sources might be unreliable, but having unreliable sources is much more beneficial than having no sources at all.
I think by now you can understand why I'm a little frustrated by this. I have said that I understand that people say it deals 24 damage per second, and I understand that that derives from 144 damage per beam, yet it gets repeated over and over again. I have also given sources as to where I'm getting this, yet despite being told they're unreliable, I have not been shown any that prove them wrong. Lastly, I have asked over and over where people have gotten this information from, and have either been ignored, or told what I've already been told.
@ LordKerwyn. The things that make me doubtful are when the Colossi attack the Nydus Wyrm and the Eggs, but apart from that, they kill Zerglings much quicker than one every two seconds. From the video, I guess I'd say it looks weaker than 144 damage per second, but stronger than 24 damage per second.
I'm sorry this dragged out into a long discussion and I didn't mean for it to. I asked it as a fairly simple question, just wondering where people were getting this information on the Colossus, and hoped to get a straight-forwards response to it, but this was not the case.
One last time. Can anyone tell me where they are getting the information about the Colossus' damage from?