New Battlecruisers Mega-Weapons

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yes electric guns etc are not high tech expensive weapons. in other sci fi settings there are tons of great sci fi weapons and yet the people using them are not any richer or hightech than the terran.

see in the matrix they have this electric guns to counter the sentinel im sure the terran can pwn zion's army in a blink of an eye.

unreal tournament 3 has great sets of weapons but i dont see their settings and econmy bigger than starcraft or the terran.

its about blizzard making realistic weapons for the terrans (riffles, grenade launchers, flamethrowers etc.). and i say they should not limit and its about time the terran gets something like an eraser pulse gun or whatever you wanna call it.

yes weapons that are not realistically seen today but rather more on SCI FI and future weapons innovations. and im sure if you give a terran infantry a weapon like this, that unit will have more characteristic and be more unit and badass. say the reaper? or amrauder?

im ok with the marine's gauss riffle and the ghost weapon.

 

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The "eraser pulse gun" kind of weapons are reserved for the bigger units. If every Terran unit fired lasers (or something similar) it would clutter up the screen and look too Protossy.

 

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see thats the problem. its not bcoz terran can't have this or that.

but im only suggesting this for at least one unit. say the reaper. give him a electric ball attack, fire ball attack, lightning chain attack that reaps straight through the enemies with long cooldown etc. lol and just make it visually cool but at the same time not clutter the screens much and ruin the gameplay. and just compare the animation it will create than the boring dual pistols. there. which is better? 8)

and notice the names of the terran weapons.. they are realistic, riffles, grenades, cannister, laser "batteries"...why not invent something more sci fi.. rachet and clank going commando has many nice sci fi weapons which i see no problem for the terrans using them.

plasma storm
infiltrator
ion cannon
etc

and the good thing about it is the attack and animation and effect it will have, bcoz the possibilities are limitless.

 

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Come on man, you're smarter than that and there is no need to be ignorant. I was simply giving an example that lasers are not anything new, and are in much higher development than laser printers. I highlighted laser printers to show that again lasers are not so high tech as people precive.

@Zeratul. The reaper is a nice unit I wouldn't care if it changed or not as long as it keeps its basics. I do have a problem with the Marauder unit tho so...

Come on people lets free our minds up here and be creative yet innovative. Btw this has become off topic. I suggest someone make a thread on this issue.

 

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There is a big difference between laser printers (and anything else that us "real" humans have made laser-way) and battlecruiser lasers, which are, believe me, high tech compared to modern lasers.
A musket ain't the same as a modern rifle just cause it is based on the same idea/mechanics.

 

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i dont know but i believe by the time we hit the year 2100 we will already have laser weapons since the world is not getting poorer and we are not fighting anything not human.

i think the scbw is just nostalgic and not hardcore sci fi , although it was great. but IMO sc2 needs to look more updated and 10x better. no more buggy jeeps hit and running some zergling and a rambo looking ghost etc. xp

 

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Omg why do I have to repeat my self constantly, I said I brought up laser printers to show that they are in effect in an everyday appliance. And repeating my self again, I said there are much higher developments of lasers some we know of some we don't.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1281536.html
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/1283906.html?page=1

The Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser has scored 3Array kills, including 26 Katyusha rockets.

A fuzzy, green dot from a laser pointer drifts along the ground and comes to rest on an odd-looking piece of metal. For the next few seconds the light hangs motionless. Then, just as we realize the dot is focused on a hand grenade, the image on our viewing screen dissolves in white light. The really impressive sight comes into view when the screen clears. We see that the concrete pad beneath the blast is scorched, but otherwise perfectly intact. "We burn the least explosive part of the munition," explains Scott McPheeters, our guide for a visit to the Army's laser weapons testing center on the sprawling White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. You may have observed the same low-force blast when as a kid you stupidly tried using a match to light a firecracker that had lost its fuse.

Over the next few minutes we watch the Army's Humvee-mounted Zeus laser cast its glowing eye upon an assortment of unexploded ordnance. Seeing Zeus in action, we realize we are looking at more than a fast new tool for safely clearing unexploded ordnance. We are looking at the first major military breakthrough of the 21st century.

Chemical Lasers
The military began exploring the combat potential of lasers in the 1960s. At that time, researchers focused almost exclusively on chemically activated lasers. Tests at the High Energy Laser Systems Test Facility (HELSTF) here at White Sands have produced impressive results ever since. As early as 1978, a chemical laser blasted through a tethered helicopter. "MIRACL is a very capable laser," says HELSTF director Tom Hodge, referring to the Mid-Infrared Advanced Chemical Laser, the workhorse of military laser research. "It is also roughly the size of the power and light plant down the road. It isn't a combat system. It is a testbed." Thus far, the most compact chemical laser to score a kill is the Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser (MTHEL), shown here. A few weeks before PM's visit to White Sands, MTHEL became the first laser weapon to track and destroy multiple artillery projectiles in flight at the missile range. The Air Force is using similar chemical laser technology for its Scud-killing airborne laser, which fits inside a modified Boeing 747-400 freighter ("Air Force Plans Fleet Of Laser Cannons," April 1997, page 16).

Portable Power
Zeus makes a sharp break with the past. Instead of using highly reactive chemicals to create a laser beam inside a plume of hot gas, Zeus performs its magic inside a special type of glass. Its operating principle is the same as that of all solid-state lasers, including those in CD drives and DVD players. Basically, light from a beefed-up flashbulb sends a stream of photons into nine neodymium-doped glass discs. Inside the discs, the light, which can be thought of as a rabble of raw recruits, becomes organized into a crack drill team--what physicists call a beam of coherent, monochromatic light. Gaining strength as more light is pumped in, the colorless laser beam bursts out one side of the crystal with enough power to heat steel at 200 yards. Add a control system to keep the beam on target and a database that tells the beam which part of the munition to focus upon, and you have the perfect tool for safely defusing unexploded ordnance.

Looking beyond ordnance removal, the Army envisions solid-state heat capacity (SSHC) lasers, such as that used in Zeus, as the ultimate defensive weapon. "Rockets, artillery and mortars cause half of the casualties," says Chip Hardy, SSHC laser project manager at HELSTF.

Senior military officials are more cautious in their assessment. "Our preference would be to walk away from chemicals," Brig. Gen. John Urias, the U.S. Army's point man on lasers, tells PM. He quickly points out that at their current stage of development, solid-state lasers are hardly troublefree. "If the laser overheats, the system shuts down."

Researchers at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, Calif., which developed the 10-kilowatt SSHC laser for the Zeus system, believe the power can be increased to the 100 kilowatts needed to blast enemy rockets from roughly 5 miles away.

The difficulty in creating a stronger pulse is not in producing a more powerful laser beam, but keeping the laser itself cool. A 100-kilowatt laser will require 1 megawatt of input power. The heat produced when the laser is fired has to be removed to prevent damage. Livermore scientists have solved the problem by developing a way to rapidly cool the laser between firings without losing its structural integrity or lasing characteristics. A lab spokesman says the research team is on target for delivering a demonstration version by 2007.

 

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now i can see more why the viking as the terran main ATA unit lorewise would suck bad. missile can be easily intercepted by lasers and lasers fires faster than missiles.

so i really hope the terran will still get a new ata fighter or at least bring back the predator.

i think by the year 2050 will have the first military vehicle that shoots laser. the future is near. ^^

 

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They already have laser weapons lol just click the second link.

Also heres more weaponary that isn't just metal and explosions.
http://www.powerlabs.org/emguns.htm

Tell me the stuff I stated eariler is too high tech for Terran now!

 

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no they said they were planning on it. anyway i bet they have some laser weaponry protoype by now.

electromagnetic weapons! electro thermal guns, microwave guns, disk shooters, nitro explosive guns, electric chain guns, iron man's photon canons, now these are what terran needs if lasers and plasma will make them look bad.

and Tell me also the stuff I stated eariler is too high tech for Terran now! xp

 

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Lol pretty much ownd.

 

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Oh my god! When i logged on while waiting for my laundry to be finished, I thought WOW... 35 replies!! And when I read them they are 90% about how soon IRL there would be possible to have laserfiring weapons..

I'm kinda disappointed

But here my view of the matter. So instead of lasers you suggest sonicbombs and what not, right? And you dont want the buggys anymore? But I mean that was the terran concept: Everything was vintage and oldschool! No superadvanced teleportation devices and such. So I think they shouldnt stray to far from that.

My original question was: Did someone else think that the Battlecruiser look cool firing huge cannons instead??

I just thought it would look cool, Nothing more... Nothing less.

 

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yeh those pics look alot more appropritate for the BC!!

 

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Since when did Blizzard assign you to tell us the Terrans whole concept was vintage and old school?
Also nobody is talking abuot teleportation devices, I simply proved that laser are not that advanced as you may of thought since we utilize them in many ways currently. So just imagine what Terran could come up with as there are amazing things in their galaxy/time.

 

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epo, i think we would have psi, lasers, and all those futuristic stuff in the........what year is sc in? 41st century?? ....

i, believe that the units with lasers are no problem at all......its not "protoss like"..duude! the future humans are not old school =]

 

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It's not only about it being too high tech. Sure, they might have the technology, but is that enough? They need the funds. The Terran faction you can choose to play as in skirmish can not be compared to UED for instance. You should compare them to Raynor's Raiders.

Too high tech for Terran as a whole? I am not sure, It's not exactly awkward to see Battlecruisers firing lasers. But it is too expensive to give Reapers, Marines and Marauders all that kind of expensive equipment when they already have power suits, gauss guns/rifles and futuristic grenade launchers.

And you shouldn't use the argument "I am sure that Terrans are rich in SC2" as you always do.
That's not a reason to give every damn criminal infantry UT3 weapons.


And about your comparison with the UT3 weapons

UT takes place in a different universe in a different genre. What genre might that be? FPS.
What's in focus when playing a FPS? The guns, especially in a game like UT3.
Hence, the UT weapons are extremely exotic.

But what could a RTS like starcraft be about? Exotic weapons? Don't think so. It's about exotic strategies, exotic places (just look at all the different tilesets) and three exotic factions that are different from each other.

 

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ok i dont mind the lore much such as terran can't afford this and that because if blizzard wants a electric chain gun for a terran infantry then fine, us fan will just follow and blizzard will make everything balance as well as make it justifiable lorewise.

about the UT3 weapons? ok the thing is blizzard IMO wants terran to be more realistic and nostalgic about their weapons. period. although its not really a bad thing but giving them something better also aint a bad thing actually it will be nicer.

a cooler, more badass, innovative, sci fi hardcore, complicated mechanic weapons are a plus. while old design realistic one are less exciting in a sci fi setting. so whats not to like about these new weapons?

 

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Because that is the Protosses "thing". More than anything else SC is defined by it´s 3 distinctive races. Being "old" doesn´t mean that Terran guns aren´t good. In fact, as resources go Terran ordinance did more damage than even Protoss stuff (at certain tradeoffs of course).

 

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@GMG in the Terrans time what is slightly hi-tech to us will be basic to them. I don't care about the campain I was talking about gameplay overall. Those are just Terrans, they are not rich or poor in normal gameplay as theres no story behind the normal gameplay, its just a random battle.

Also I'm repeating my self again. No one said every units needs one of these just 1 or 2. And the reason for this is because you can give the attack/weapon certain attributes that are new to the game and add more tactics with out giving every unit a flashy ability.

And yes, what zeratul said; whats not to like about these weapons?

 

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Railguns and gauss guns are higher tech than lasers and yet still projectile weapons.

It doesn't have to bee bright and shiney to be high tech. Frankly a railgun would probaly look like it has more oomph than the current pew pew lasers