My last thread, Thanking everyone...

Then one might also say that you ruin Blizzard's idea. And as far as I can tell, everybody seems to be on their "side" on this. At this point you aren't even really defending or arguing in favor of your ideas anymore. All you do is QQ about how it doesn't fir into the current game. People simply do no care about that, and it's annoying to read. Especially with the exaggerated use of dots after every single line.

Please come up with some actually readable and valid arguments, or simply leave as you said you would.

 

Dude, when have you ever came up with a valid argument to anything related to starcraft that blizzard wouldn't reject YOU on?

But wait, you're not the one who has a complaint...

You have closed your mind to the point that there is no room to come up with a valid argument.

You yourself would not be able to come up with a valid point even if you had a point to argue from.

That's where you fail.

 

Please, stop the personal bashing. All of you. Don't drag the moderators in to this again.

The spawning pool is a tech building. It's like building a ghost academy, or an armory. It's purpose is not to produce, it's purpose is to provide an initial step to climb the tech tree.

 

Since you like quoting famous people, especially scientists and filosophers let me give you another favourite:

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
-Albert Einstein

Based on that fact only(damn your way of metaphysical thinking is so cool to use sometimes!), I can conclude that you in fact should have been right all along in your posts. You've traveled so far on the stupidity axis that the "obvius" there and the "obvious" here are different one another.
Your understanding of the infinite is so cool that our poor finite minds can only gasp about...

Still on the axis of stupidity of course.

Really those 3 last posts were a marvel even by your standards.
You start getting a realisation that what you've been spamming about is invalid(and the magnificent thing is that that realisation did't come from any of the obvious collisions between your own arguments{god make them arguments, such as they are} and epiphany came from a random statement that "dude, sc is not warcraft in space".) so instead of looking back and trying to reevaluate your own thesis, you grab the first random zerg structure that has something to do with creating units(namely the spawning pool), declare it the equivelent of a production building(because the name fits, so "thematically" it should be plausible) when apparently it's not(it's the equivelent of a tech building but sice toss and terran have their t1 techs baked in their racks the same must go by zerg, rite?) and despite the antithesis there you start a brand new wave of bumbo jumbo.

Just do us all a favour and stick to your word. Stop posting, it's causing massive brain-damage to readers >.<

 

Hey but guess what, there are a minority group of people who total agree that there is a problem with zerg in balance and design. Smart people.

Pros get paid, and if I got paid to play a game, I would keep my mouth shut too.

It is the majority of people who are stupid, not the minority.

 

Do you realize how stupid you sound right now? NO OFFENSE..... and in my own DEFENSE....

The barrack and the gateway are not there to provide the initial step to climb the tech tree?

Basically what you are saying is that zerg should be able to make roach after pool, or hydralisk after pool in reference to broodwar.

Because what you are saying is that the cybernetics core and the academy open up the ability to take the next level units. Whether it was medic/firebat/ or Dragoon.

All 3 of which cost 200 minerals mind you, Academy, Pool, Cybernetics core.

Think about that.


Oh..... and now a problem becomes ever so clear....

Einstein was so right btw...


Actually....

Here's and idea ...

Take basically all the zerg upgrades and back them up 1 notch.

Zerling Speed: Researched at hatchery (Sort of like how burrow was researched at the hatchery in BW, interesting to note how it's cost was 100-100 just like zergling speed...

And then have the baneling speed, and or roach speed occur before lair tech.

Have you ever noticed how absolutely pitiful zerglings are against photon cannons these days?

Actually, nevermind, this game is already screwed to no end.

But I'll stand next to my initial point....

The lair is the tech building... The pool is not.

And therefore needs some role or involvement in production.

 

Wow... thats really all the can be said.

Atlas, you DO realize that EatMeReturns was the only one stood up for you (to a degree anyway)? You just called him stupid for coming up with a counter point to you. He didn't insult you, and he didn't deride you. He came up with a counter point to your argument.... thats sad.

No, no they are not. They are there as production buildings not tech buildings. The only zerg equivalent is the hatchery/lair/hive. All of which are production buildings first and foremost. However due to the DISSIMILARITY between the races, they don't occupy the same slots, nor are the costs equal, nor do the stars match, nor do they have the same hp's.

All zerg buildings EXCEPT the hatcheries are support buildings. All are the equivalent to the tech/reactor addon, and armory for terran, and the cybernetics core, citadel, fleet beacon, templar archives, dark templar shrine, and robotics upgrade facility. THAT IS THE ROLE THAT ZERG BUILDING TAKE.

That is balanced, that is right, that is the way the game is played. Could it be better? Sure. If you called the shots would people play it? probably not.

Last note. Zerglings ARE PITIFUL AGAINST EVERYTHING! THEY ARE THE CHEAPEST UNIT IN THE GAME. 200 zerglings on the other hand become significantly less pitiful. Oh wait... you wouldn't know that, it requires tactics, and adaptability.

 

Atlas, when do you plan on making an arguement that actually makes sense? Everything you have said has been countered. In all honesty, its sounds like the only reason you are her is to Troll, because your arguements make no sense and your ignoring everyone in here making good, factual arguements.

 

Everything that I have said has been countered?

More like everything that they have said I have countered even better....

Again if the pool is a tech building like the cyber core or academy, it should yield a unit beyond ling.

If it is not a tech building then it should have some kind of role in production... like spawn larvae being used on it.

It's either one way or the other, I know that I am right about one or the other, that's all I know.

 

Cybernetics core yields stalker.

Fleet beacon yields carrier

Dark templar shrine yields.... guess

Templar archives yields....templar

Armory yields thor

Next please

 

Again... how pathetic of counter arguments are these?

They are completely indirect....

I mean, like the prior... look how indirect that is.... it's pathetic.

 

Actually, I can and have done so many times. Here is one example of something I once said. As you can see here it even got implemented for a while. Of course not in exactly the same way, but that is how Blizzard does things. They listen to the community, and go from there, along with their own ideas. You can't expect everything written by every fan to be implemented.

What I'm trying to say is that it's good to come up with new ideas, because Blizz seems to be open for anything. The thing is, that your ideas, ideologies, whatever, seem a bit extreme at times. And then I'm being modest. What you think of as something which might be good, is being rejected by a great many people who have put quite some thought into it. Why are you trying to fight for something which has clearly failed? Please try to improve upon your own arguments, instead of trying to make others look bad. And the endless quoting of famous people isn't really helping either. It only shows that you can't come up with a properly written theory on your own.

Anyway, I can't be bothered with you any longer. Have fun, AtlasMeCH. This is where you failed. Again.

 

A good deal of people who have put a great deal of thought in what exactly?\


I bet 99% of the people who are rejecting my ideas are protoss or terran players while all the zergs just remain silent.

and being a random player doesn't count.

 

They've put thought in their arguments against your ideas. You might also want to note that I am a Zerg player, and do not agree with you.

Also, I like how you completely ignore my example and explanation of how Blizzard has listened to it's community in the past already. I could give you many examples such as that one. Even for their World of Warcraft game if that'd make a difference. The thing is, you ignore all of this anyway, and decide to only reply to the words you can bend into sounding flawed or biased.

Ah well, I'm going to bed. No idea why I'm even spending time on typing replies for you.

 

Wow, an entertainment company actually listened to its community?

You're joking....

Also, I bet you haven't always been a zerg player....

 

first random players dont count, then you dont think hes ALWAYS been a zerg player so he doesn't count, next a zerg player who drinks orange juice in the morning wont count because their vitamin c intake is too high.

Your just funny.

Btw

I gave you a direct corolation. How is that indirect?

 

He's just trolling, like I said before. It's only now that he's running out of ways to hide it.

 

A few things before I lock this (and your subsequent threads should there be any) for trolling.

• The pool unlocks the zerglings and the queen (something you missed by saying the pool should give something beyond the ling), the latter of which speeds up larva production (as well as unit movement, and it also heals).

• The pool is part of production. It helps you produce not only lings and queens, but also more larvae via the queen. Not passively and not on its own, but does the pool increase larva production indirectly? Of course. Does dealing with others' arguments simply by saying it's stupid? In your world it might, so I suggest you take these discussions up with yourself, preferably not in public.
  
  As for the underlined bit, trains of thought like that lead me to conclude that you have difficulty thinking coherently. That leads to two things. The first is that we can't understand your posts. However, the second is more severe - it causes you to run around in circles like a deranged hound and when you finally do catch your tail, you start running in circles in the opposite direction. From your perspective I'm guessing this is... entertaining, perhaps? From our perspective, we made the mistake of taking you seriously and entered into your discussions claiming that that tail is not worth catching. Your reply? "But it's there".

Have a good one. I've always wanted to try one of them strait jackets.