More talk about Robert Clotworthy not playing Raynor

That's just a load of crap. It's the exact same situation. How can a man perving on a woman be considered a pervert, and a pretty blatant one at that, when a woman perving on a man is considering as being kinky, and definitely not identifiable as a pervert? Again, it's the exact same situation.

 

He does have a point though. When you say pervert, most people associate it with a male. Also, I have never seen "perverted woman", unlike "perverted man".

 

i've seen perverted women, i think the girls in my class are at least as perverted as the boys

but then again, im dutch

 

Well that just goes along the lines of what Tychus was saying about men being more sexually oriented than women are. That said, you're more likely to find a male pervert because there are more of them. That said, if it was Kerrigan perving on Raynor, then yes, she'd be a pervert. The conclusion? Raynor's a pervert.

Regardless, this's seriously gone off topic.

 

erm, Kerrigan was having sex with raynor through telepatic dreams....


that was no joke

 

K, seriously now people. Back on topic.

 

I don't think the racism comparison holds true Itza. Racism has to do with your beliefs while a pervert is someone who actually acts on their thoughts. I think it would be better to compare it to murder. You can't be a murderer for thinking about killing someone, just like you can't be a pervert for thinking about doing something depraved to someone sexually. So Raynor's technically not a pervert but I think we can all agree at the very least that he had perverted thoughts

 

Are you American?

( Sorry for these questions )

That comparison doesn't really hold true. Murder is by definition the ACT of killing someone. Perverted is an adjective.

 

I think perverted is just an attribute like insane or evil, and you don't need to do anything to acquire those attributes, it's enough if you have thoughts that qualify as insane/evil. Hence I think you don't need to act to qualify as a perverted person.

Tychus, Itza is an Aussie. It's even in his profile

 

That explains a lot to me. American cultures and society is a lot different than other countries.

Sorry for not checking the profile. I'm not used to this feature in most of the forums I visit

 

How do we know he didn't just think "nice rack" or something?
That would elicit a response from the woman but wouldn't necessarilly make him perverted.

As for the "this is Jimmy" stuff that's not being self centered; it is standard radio chatter to identify oneself over the radio.

If somone calls you on the radio the the standard conversation goes like this.
"Raynor? Come in Raynor?"
"Raynor here go ahead"
"Command here *list of instructions*"
"Roger command, Raynor out"

 

@ Nikzad. I agree with Tychus' and kuvasz's responses.

@ Tychus. I can kinda understand your logic behind asking whether I'm female based off of what I said, but, just out of curiosity, what made you think I was American?

@ BoP. How does 'just' thinking 'nice rack' make it any better? He's still being extremely inappropriate and consciously checking her out sexually the first time they've met, directly in front of her and when she's addressing him in a freaking battlezone. Besides, she doesn't react as though he's said that. Not that it really matters. Either way he's a perv.

Also, if it's just 'standard radio chatter to identify oneself over the radio', how come he's the only character who does it? All other characters are normal... He just can't shut up about himself.

 

What I am saying is that having sexual thoughts about someone else doesn't make you a pervert. LOTS of people think things that you don't wanna heat. Having a telepath around to respond to those thoughts don't suddenly make them perverted.



As for the addressing oneself Kerrigan mentioned her name too.
I still fail to see how saying "Raynor here" is self centered. When you answer the phone don't you identify who you are or at least your residence?

 

So you're saying it's alright to think whatever you want about someone directly in front of them? Then there's the fact that he's doing it while he's being addressed in the middle of a warzone... Besides, if so many people have those thoughts, then why would she still be reacting so violently to them? Why wouldn't she be reacting that way to all the other people she's with?

As for Kerrigan, she's the only other character who refers to herself and she does so once. She doesn't continuously go on about herself, and she isn't completely condescending. As I've said before, if that was the only thing about Raynor, there wouldn't be a problem. But it isn't, so there is.

About the phone, do you honestly answer with who you are every single time? 'Cause I'd find that hard to believe. They know who they're calling, and they know what you sound like, as do you know what they sound like. If either of you don't, you ask. It's not rocket science.

 

Yeah but phone calls aren't regulated by military law

I'm pretty sure it's a requirement to identify yourself in the radio. Also, it's just down to personality whether you say "lieutenant Kerrigan reporting" or "Jimmy here" - both gets the message across, so it's logical that the more orderly Kerrigan goes for the longer while Raynor goes for the shorter one. The fact that he has two lines with his name in it compared to Kerrigan's one doesn't make him self-centred. Note though that I don't know either person's lines when you keep clicking them.

 

Actually, I thought just the opposite. Your level headed thinking is something I don't expect from the average male or citizen of America.

Women react like this in real life too.. And, people do have those thoughts CONSTANTLY (Refer to "Five Second Rule" for this.)

I think you just need to accept that you live in a very different culture, and, also, men and women think about sex a lot differently. True, it's largely arguable that men think about sex more often than women, but there are sometimes when women think about sex just as much.. But, even then, it's in a much different way. I call the finding in psychological evaluations to stand to back my claim.