Minerals are back.

It isn't fair the other way either. Besides, you'll still be able to buy most of the items you want before they're sold out, and the ones that you might not manage to get you'll be able to trade for, just as you did on the old forum anyway. You managed to get all those items on the old forum when the shop had been up for ages, so what makes you think you'll lose it all when you're there when the shop opens for the first time?

 

You can't trade items the way you could with the old system since there's no such thing as an inventory in the new one.

And no, let's not reset everyone's belongings. Far too much effort has been put into them by users. As long as Hyperion takes its time and doesn't rush things, it should be easy to give everyone what they own.

 

hey the minerals are back .....................im still broke lol. oh well

 

Kuvasz I can see/understand the problem, but there is one thing I dont understand: How can you care so much about the items? The forum and the discussens are 10000x more important IMO, so the admin shouldnt be investing all his time in the shop, better do something for the community. I know the shop etc. is part of the community, but there are other things more important IMO.

 

because we all had our efforts in gaining them, it became a part of the forums, and if they're going to change/remove/*insert the word I'm looking for*, every forum member who had their cherished item would die a little inside, and resetting wouldn't feel the same

collections may be virtual, but its like a uber WoW account, its priceless

 

Furrer, if this site was all about SC2 and the community, we wouldn't have a reputation system, a friends list, arcade, signatures, racial icons, etc., because they're all redundant from the point of view of discussions. This site was more than just a place for discussing things, and people would like to see that return.

 

see? i agree with this /\ guy and thats weird because I'm scared of him

 

kuvasz does make good points, but it is a very good thing that the minerals are back

 

the only lil problem is that they aren't

 

@ kuvasz. The site is all about StarCraft2 and the community, all those extra things are just awesome bonuses. This is just one of those bonuses that will have to be reset, not even removed or anything, in order to give our admin, who have already brought us the forum about StarCraft2 as well as all those other bonuses, none of which will be effected, a break. I think you're taking it for granted a bit to much. We're lucky to have absolutely everything we have here, so having to buy pets again really isn't that much of an issue.

 

If that's for the whole shop and item system then I have to ask: who are you to say so? And why have to be? The Hyperion went into the trouble of recording everyone's belongings, and I don't think they would leave the whole move half finished, especially since they've officially stated that everyone will get their items back. Not to mention how many of us are dying to see their pets again.

I'm a bit surprised to see you give up on the items so fast. I remember you yearning for a stalker before you could actually afford one, just for the sensation of owning one. That feeling is still within lots of us.

 

I'm not saying they absolutely have to be reset, I said that I wouldn't be surprised if they were. I wasn't aware that Hyperion recorded everyone's belongings, but unless they recorded minerals, including the minerals from everyone's bank, as well as the number still in stock in the shops, then what we're being given won't be the equivalent of what we should be getting, so either us or other members will be set back a fair bit in that regard, which wouldn't be fair. It's easier and fairer to just let everyone start over.

I'm not giving up on those items, as I'll be able to buy them back. It's not as though their pets or anything, they just take up a set amount of pixels on the screen. The reason that I wanted to buy a Stalker, apart from 'yearning' not being the right word, was that I'd just donated everything I had towards my clan's boards, so when I felt like a Stalker, I had to go after it in more of a roundabout way, which may have led you to believe that I was 'yearning' for it. All in all, I'd just given all my minerals away, right before the Zerg pets were released and everything.

 

I thought you knew. Hyperion recorded everything, including the two sets of minerals per account, along with stock (not for 2nd edition ones obviously). The reason you can't settle the matter by giving everyone their minerals back and letting them rebuy their stuff is because when the shop comes online it'll be a first-come-first-served thing and owners might find their items sold out by the time they log in. Not to mention that people would unfairly get money for items they bought real cheap (take my case, beer for 100, colossus for 300...). It would be mayhem and the Hyperion knows it.

 

the greatest bonus that i joined here is that it has a shop system, sure i like sc2 and it coming out and all but still, the shop was a greater part enjoyed here, if we reset, it would just have the same meaning as "nevermind the shop, it doesn't feel the same as before", then we die a little inside, then we would be stuck humoring ourselves with starcraft2 news....

 

@ kuvasz. There aren't enough minerals in the system for everything to be sold out before you log on. Besides, if somehow, you haven't logged on for days and whatever it is that you want is sold out, how is that different to a new person joining and having the shop already sold out of whatever it is that they want? At least resetting the shop starts everyone off on a level playing field, and seeing as the forums aren't flooded with excess minerals at the moment, you'll still be able to buy the things you want.

@ Ursawarrior. Why would the shop lose its meaning if it gets reset? It would still function in the exact same way, people would still have to work just as hard to buy what they want, etc, etc. The whole forum has been redone, it hasn't lost its meaning. The vast majority of Space Junk has been deleted and practically reset, but it didn't lose its meaning. Why would the same happen to the shop? People still want to spruce up their profiles and display their pets, so it would still be as needed and necessary as before, so why would it lose all meaning?

I'm not saying that I reckon that the shop will be reset, nor am I saying that it should be reset, I'm just saying that it's not a problem if it is.

 

I'm actually for the shop being reset. That way new(er) members have an equal chance to buy things they want directly from the shop rather than buy for ridiculous prices at the trade center. That being said we should be able to sell out items directly back to the shop.

 

thats just not right, and somehow it doesn't feel the same, i mean cmon? how about those lucky ones who had the kerrigen and raynor dolls? reset! then all is lost if they didnt get one and some newbie did.... so thats fair???

 

Those lucky ones that got the Kerrigan and Raynor dolls? Or the oldest members who were around when they were sold and already had the minerals to buy them? Besides, if a newer member was able to afford a Kerrigan or Raynor doll, then they've obviously been active and posting frequently, thus contributing to the forum, so they deserve to be able to buy them. I mean, why not just put an age limit on them while you're at it? No-one who's joined after the xth of the y can have a shot at owning a collectable. Does that seem right to you?

 

Why don't we remove second edition pets and set unlimited stock for all items then?

 

That would still require everything to be reset, otherwise people who bought things like Marines for thousands after they were sold out would feel they got ripped.