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Merge the Carrier and the Mothership.

Discussion in 'Protoss' started by DKutrovsky, Oct 26, 2007.

Merge the Carrier and the Mothership.

Discussion in 'Protoss' started by DKutrovsky, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. EonMaster

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    If that is correct, I don't see why they changes it. The tempest seems to be a carbon copy of the carrier. Also, is it just me, or do the designs for the tempest and new carrier look almost exactly alike?

    I do like how the new carrier is designed though. It looks much better than it did in sc1. Also, I think it looks better than the tempest because the colors look better than the mostly blue color the tempest had.
     
  2. LordKerwyn

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    The new Carrier is just a recolored Tempest.
     
  3. Psionicz

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    The blue colour was quite to my liking, made the unit look unique and possibly emphasized its high importance within the Protoss ranks.

    But the interceptors look very weak and non-combatish and the Tempest's attacked looked real cool with the blue streaks.
     
  4. EonMaster

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    Did Blizzard ever give a reason why they changed the tempest to the carrier? I don't see any good reasons since they are the same except for thier coloring and attack graphics.
     
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    The simpler aswer is people wanted the "Carrier" not the Tempst. Honestly, I agree with em.
     
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    Carrier makes it sound like some kinda drop ship, Tempest just sounds I dunno just something I wouldn't wanna come into conflict with.

    I remember on the Official Sc2 forums people were saying the Protoss names seem too basic like ''Mothership'' or ''Carrier'' and they was speculating on them having Names based on Protoss dialect.

    I mean names like Coursair (sp?) and Arbitor seemed to fit Protoss just right. Mothership and Carrier is something which the Terran would refer them as but doesn't seem right with the Protoss acknowledging them as this.
     
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    Here is a post I made awhile back about Protoss naming conventions. It shows why I think Protoss are named what they are.

     
  8. Psionicz

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    Yea I said something similar in a recent post too which was: The new voices overall are kinda disappointing, but they will change it cuz most people dislike the voices.

    The new Protoss voices sound too human and as I've seen on various comments around the internets they say the Protoss sound too white.

    Any views on this?

    Edit: but come to think of it Protoss don't physically speak to they since they ain't got any mouths, I think they speak telepathically right? (like speakers) so I'm guessing a Protoss speaking to a Terren would result in their 'voice' to be interpreted as a Human voice.


    But when we are playing as the Protoss we are playing as the Protoss, see what I'm saying?
     
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    I do see what your saying but its still a human at the end of the chain isnt it? (we are human after all :p) You could interpret that situation a number of ways I just think assuming there is always a human at the end of the chain is simplest.
     
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    i really like the heavy AG tempest more than the carrier but than it would overlap with the mothership
     
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    But the Tempest is exactly the same as the Carrier?

    They already overlap. I guess the Mothership is Similar to the Thor were people say the Thor overlaps with the Siege Tank. I say the Mothership is simply a Carrier with abilities and can attack multiple targets at once.
     
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    and can only attack ground
     
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    Going back to voices, I like the way they used to speak in the first game. Sounded pretty good, and we already have that type of voice established as a "Protoss Voice", so why change it?
     
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    They actually speak the same way in SC2, it's just that these voices are new they have different lines and they are probably using new voice actors. We are so used to hearing the same set of voices that we start to believe that they represent the full spectrum of what Protoss might sound like. When a new set of voices comes along, as we are expecting the old, of course it will sound "different," even though it isn't.
     
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    Good point, it would sound odd if everyones voice was the same.
     
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    i meant axe the carrier

    put back in the tempest with its cool concept of attking ground units only and being a vs ground specialist

    and give mothership back its original power, making it a super unit again
     
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    Carrier
    Hit Points: 300
    Shields: 150
    Minerals: 350
    Vespene: 250
    Build Time: 120
    Supply: 8
    Modifiers: Mechanical
    Size: Large
    Hotkey: C
    Produced From: Stargate
    Requires: Fleet Beacon
    Upgrades: Air Weapons, Air Armor, Plasma Shields
    Abilities: Build Interceptor
    Defense: 5 (+1) Type: Armored Movement: Normal
    Armament: Interceptors
    Damage: 5 (+1)
    Attacks: 8
    Range: 8
    Speed: Fast
    Targets: Ground, Air
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    Mothership
    Hit Points: 300
    Shields: 250
    Energy: 300
    Minerals: 300
    Vespene: 500
    Build Time: 140
    Supply: 8
    Modifiers: Mechanical
    Size: Large
    Hotkey: M
    Produced From: Stargate
    Requires: Fleet Beacon
    Upgrades: Air Weapons, Air Armor, Plasma Shields
    Abilities: Cloak Field, Time Bomb, Planet Cracker
    Switch to Protoss: Overview, Units or Buildings
    Defense: 4 (+1) Type: Armored Movement: Normal
    Armament: Disruptor Pulse
    Damage: 80
    Attacks: 5
    Range: 7
    Speed: Normal
    Targets: Ground, Air
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    Can I say... overlap x2?
     
  18. EonMaster

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    Wait, the MS can attack air again? Also, I do agree there is major overlaping. Turning the MS back into the super units it was originally supposed to be would fit that pretty well.

    As long as they don't axe the MS, it's basically become the new icon for the protoss race.
     
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    And they are both classed as Capital Ships, this annoys me.
     
  20. ijffdrie

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    why?
    the dutch fleet has 2 capital ships as well