Merc haven

So they change the name along with the Art and make it something more menacing along with calling it something like "the cell".

Come on a bar.....

 

We know nothing of the lore of the building. Well maybe a little, but that could be just made up or not. Blizzard isn't going to say anything, and they might (might as in maybe) change it's art and lore, or the reaper is now a merc. It makes no since to have a bar in the middle of the battle field. You don't what your troops to be drinking on the job. Come on. Having a bar out in the battle field. They will be drinking instead of fighting.

 

It couldn't be something like a cell since the Reapers aren't trained from it. The Compound unlocks their production in the Barracks, so a bar would make slightly more sense since they wouldn't have to be there.

I am only relatively happy with the bar though, and would like to see something completely different.

 

I thought about why a bar after reading your post Gasmaskguy, and I see why they did the bar. Nothing else fits the reapers like the bar does. Reapers don't look right coming from a research facility, and a cell doesn't fit being out in the battle field. The bar is the only thing that does.

 

A bar fits on a battlefield... how?

 

Lolz, why not just make it a crude building with flames coming out the sides? It would show how diabolical the reaper is and also show an aspect of the reaper via the rockets flames coming out.

Wouldn't that look better? And fit at the same time?

 

I alrighty imagined that. It looks terrible. I would rather have the bar.

@10-Neon I didn't say a bar fit on to the battlefield, I said it's the only thing that fits the reapers. That's what I was meaning. I must not have explained that very well.

 

A bar fits in a battlefield. I will explain this latter but I don't have the time. But for now I will give you three reasons. 1) Spirits, keeping up the spirits of your men.
2) Provide them a place to relax and let out their emotions to be more effective
3) Something worth protecting on the battlefield other than what you are told to protect. It is something worth personal value to the men.

 

I have to with Darth_Bane. Those are all very good reasons. If your men have spirit and they are relaxed, they will do much better on the battlefield.

 

Yeah but don't forget, a good army is built on discipline. A bar would definitely take away from good discipline. Not to mention, if your soldiers happened to be drinking and being merry and then they got attacked, they would certainly not be effective.

Emotion and good spirit do contribute to the efficacy of soldiers, but any army commander would tell you that a full-fledge bar right in the middle of the battlefield would do more harm than good.

 

Stimpacs are the answer the above post. Stimpacs is all you need. Also you think far to realistically here Niner my man it would add more flavor to the game. Also Mr.Bonaparte would agree with you on this I am sure of it. However the Terrans are not as a rigidly held together military as it is nowadays. Plus men who are angry as hell, in extremely bad conditions, lost from their families, being attacked and drunk/heavily intoxicated are raving berserkers (this was demonstrated in the Philippines War when the natives rebelled against the US occupancy). Also Stimpacs I think add a clear mind to the user, eliminating the intoxication symptoms.

 

I personally don't really care whether or not it is in the game (seeing as it is just a game I can probably get over any unrealism). I do think the Merc Haven makes sense so long as they change the lore behind the Reapers accordingly.

Back to realism: alcohol is a depressant; Stimpacks are (presumably) stimulants, so theoretically you are correct in the counterbalancing effect. However, alcohol also affects judgement and a number of other things which I don't think a stimulant could counterbalance. Regardless, intoxicated combatants, while "raving berserkers", would not be ideal in a war zone.

 

Well actually "raving berserkers" is prefect on the battlefield. Think of sending a crazy old guy with some dynamite into the battlefield. He would do terrible damage. Having "raving berserkers" attack your enemy is much better than normal troop to a point. That point is if they are to "raving berserker" to care about their life. But blizzard must have a good reason for the Merc Haven being a bar, they just haven't released it. We all know how secretive blizzard is. We probably won't find out what the reason is until they release the game.

 

Yeah but 'raving berserkers' have a much greater probability of ignoring orders, causing friendly fire, ruining surprise attacks, stirring up a 'hornet's nest', giving away positions, etc. etc. Yeah they might be better in that they are careless with their lives and fight extremely hard, but the negatives vastly outweigh the positives.

Not to mention drunken-ness also lowers fighting ability with regards to judgement and coordination!

But yes, we will probably find out Blizzard's reason behind the bar after the game is released hahaha.

 

Most Marines in the old confederacy were brain-panned (I read about it in I, Mengsk), which meant they followed orders all the time, battlefield bar or not. And I am pretty sure the majority of the Dominion's Marines are brain-panned too.

 

They're resocialised. So it wouldn't be surprising that they reside in a Merc haven?

 

According to the StarCraft II page on marines (the one at starcraft2.com) most Dominion marines are not resocialized (but many are).

In the days of I, Mengsk (the early part), most marines were resocialized. In the latter days of the Confederacy, only about half of the marines were resocialized, and that number was falling (source: Liberty's Crusade). By StarCraft II, less than half of Dominion marines were resocialized.

I guess too many resocs failed, one way or another.

 

They were basically turned into automatons made of flesh and no mind.

However lets look at this from the point of view for Single-player. I think Raynor as a drunk would like a Merc Haven (Bar) in the battle field.

 

Sure, but would the disciplined commanders of the Dominion?

 

Yes, they would. They would drink instead of fight.