How do you plan on countering zealots?

By the time you get reapers they get Stalkers!

 

That is an excelent point... but since we are talking about terran here, they can shoot um from a distance if the teleport away anyways (cause it doesn't warp them far).

 

zealots can't even attack air, what's so hard to counter them

 

ATTENTION! ALL STARCRAFT PLAYERS! In Tier 1 there are no air units.... Thank you!

 

pwned.

I'd say Firebats but that would be kind of difficult right now.

 

well make one then!

terrans gets flying scv's that throw rocks from air
zergs gets mini mutas that can turn into full mutas
protoss get flying zealots...

omg we air units don't work anymore!

 

You can counter them with cliffs and supply depots though. Both being tier 0.

 

As an addition to my aforementioned post, air units are also not quite a valid counter to either Zerglings or Zealots, as they can simply run under you and do damage to land-bound structures. Even if defenses are there, air is not always enough to deter an attack.

Alas, my mutas don't always save me. :'(

 

Get some grunts, put them in front. Get some range units, put them behind the grunts. Focus fire+run your rangers and zealots are done. They can't constantly charge you down just move your grunts fast enough.

 

Problem with that is, it takes quite a lot of micro to pull it off, and it needs to be in a choke as well. As of the original Starcraft, the units only moved in a line. It's changed now, but we can't really tell.

 

That's why I've submitted the question of what improvements have been lined up for the unit AIs. That should give us a little more insight as to what to expect and might answer this question quite well.

 

I'm going to stick with the tried and true chokepoint + new supply depots + marines. That is just me though, and it depends if Firebats are in the final build.

 

Hm, im trying to think how marines with 55hp and medics and stim pack will do vs zealots, i mean 15hp is ~40% increase in hp, thats quite a bit, its like an extra 1-2 hits with medics, maybe more, for each marine, when you pump them up, and all of them doing damage, with decent micro and FF, you should be able to tackle zealots, and considering the charge upgrade is still somewhat high tech, it needs the building equivalent to the Citadel of Adun to get it researched, so dancing should be a viable tactic early.

Also, does anyone know if Banshees damage your own units with their AoE?

 

This is pure speculation, but I would think so, AOE attacks normally do in WC3. Then again Ive been wrong before. I havn't seen any mention of it in the videos. I think Il'l watch the Terran one again, just to be sure. I doubt it will show anything though.

 

If only Marines could do "to whom it may concern" tactics. ;D

 

How come nobody thought of bunkers? My bro just pointed that out.

I mean, zealots die, you build more marines. More come, you build bunkers at supply depot choke points. Near easy counter?

 

.... Seriously, I'm becoming a bit annoyed at people who aren't reading the thread.

Bunkers are not a mobile counter option. We've been through discussion of it hundreds of times. The Terran require a specific anti-infantry unit that deals an AoE attack similar to the Firebat.

 

jon: how about about this?

 

I rather immobile counter than get SMASHED by a freakin' zealot rush! The only other early option has to be reapers. Tanks require a tech lab, and by the time you get tech lab/reacter, how many tanks do you think you can pump out before the protoss start their zealots?

 

Do you think Vikings > Zealots?

If they do, we dont need anything else for a counter