How do you plan on countering zealots?

For early, mid, and late game, both on base defence and in the field, Vikings + good micro may prove to be the best counter to Zealots. Vikings can fire on zealots and go airborne when zealots close in, fly around back, land and continue firing. Wash, rinse and repeat. It might be more difficult as another poster mentioned when you face a mix of zealots stalkers and colosessess (collossi?). Vikings can fly in, take out the collossi with one or two volleys, land and hammer the zealots. Unfortunately they would take fire from the stalkers initially which appear to be a good counter for vikings.

In late game banshees would be a very good counter. I would always use siege tanks for the psychological value if nothing else.

Upgradeable bunkers is a great idea, especially if it was a visual upgrade.

 

every body loves visual upgrades, they look cool, and i like your vikings idea. why i didnt think about that possibility beats me.

 

oh by the way . the firebat is apparently back for testing.

 

awesome. Source ?

 

wooot go firebats. but basicly my ole bunker with seige tanks in the back strategy always worked. of course now with the new units. maybe some vikings and air units to deal extra damage. of course a scv to repair the bunkers always helps lol.

 

q & a batch 15 apparently..

 

Dang! Ok, so I'll just stick with the focusing fire part. ;D

Stalkers still do more damage to armored units, and by picking Vikings you would still make it more attractive for the Toss to get Stalkers. The rest of the post I'll leave alike (or until someone corrects another part of it )

 

vikings would be a great way to counter zealots, i think that by the time the protoss are able to get charge the vikings can have transform, and as soon as the zealots charge the vikings can transform and attack from a different place.

 

what if zealots use the charge ability to hurry up and catch the vikings while there transforming.... thats why u always have marines as fodder for you stronger units lol.

 

The vikings only take at longest 1 second to transform. Not enough time to kill them with mere zealots at all.

 

The whole point of using vikings is to make the zealots waste their charge, since that is what makes them dangerous now. Also the cobra's ability to attack while retreating would be effective as well.

 

Zealots can use their charge pretty much all the time, so it's not exactly a waste.

 

I believe the charge ability has a cooldown.

Also, the issue here is that there is no specific unit that fills the niche of anti-infantry in general. An anti-infantry unit would usually be some type of AoE attack, either melee or ranged.

The Firebat perfectly filled this specialty, but in fact, was too specialized and was therefore obsolete once Tier 2 had rolled around.

The Reaper is the perfect solution to the problem with a flamethrower attack.

 

Personally I wouldn't use marines specifically for "fodder" if it's at all avoidable, it wastes resources. If you use good micro on the vikings the zealots won't get near. Of course we don't know the effective range of vikings yet so this may change a bit.

 

medics are the best fodder, they heal each other and "never" die... arg

 

I think marines + vikings + tanks in superior numbers.

We really dont have a good counter for zealots currently or masses of zerglings for that matter, i would like to see my firebat back....or give the reaper a hp/flamethrower upgrade.

 

Now that the firebat is possibly returning to the final game, any new opinions about this subject?

 

yeah firebats pwn zealots. go go firebats

f&m > all melee infantry. i once made a map with 8 medics in the center surronded by 12 3/3 upgraded firebats surronded by 800 zerglings and the firebats won, just before the medics ran out of energy

 

yup yup. in SC1 he medics was extremely useful in cases where enemies couldn't one shot your troops

and just how the heck could your comp handle 820 units on a single map!!??

(i don't know if mine can because i have never tried lol)


anyway i believe blizzard will have the firebats in the final product (their flame animation is going to look soooo sweet!!) and it will be really great for currently terrans don't have any front line units

 

I'd beleive those few fire bats killing all of those lings. I played SC1 on Sunday with my friend and we were both zerg (we are usually protoss/mostly terran) but when ever I actualy amassed zerglings with other units behindmy army died from only a few firebats.

*PS: zerg suck in SC1 if they don't get vespene gas quick* Lings just don't cut it later on...