Glynnis Talken and Robert Clotworthy Will Not Be Returning

What?

Then you're just barging in & trolling. If you're only here to nitpick then you're wasting everyone's time.

Yeah. Notice the "IMO".

I know that they're just my opinions. You keep reiterating the obvious. However, I'm allowed to use my opinions because the entire point of this debate is whether the fans are raising an outcry over nothing. If that is not the case then you guys should find proof for why we are mistaken. Otherwise you admit that this is purely an issue of opinion and that it is perfectly okay to raise a fuss about this issue, especially since past techniques of asking politely and raising petitions have not worked.

Since you originally counted yourself as one of those four people, I fail to see how "me & four people" makes any sense here. Regardless, bandwagon is STILL not a valid debate tactic, just like last time.

Also, people have also come up to me & agreed with me. And, yet again, I'm too good to try to use this as leverage in a debate. I have too much respect for myself to do that.

Blizzplanet gets exclusives like this all the time and their information is always accurate as far as I know. Certainly MedievalDragon would have no reason to make things up. If you disagree, then take that up with him.

It's all been proved here:

Not to mention the fact that you thought they redid all the buildings as well.

 

Agreed.

 

I don't know how this sudden change in your attitude will effect future posting but if it goes the way you are making it seem then I am all for it. But, in the past, you were the anti-thesis of everything said in that post so take my words in that context. I have had heated "arguments" with posters in the past (not like with Aedus1160 though) but then we both went on to be great eFriends of this forum so I have no problem putting past problems behind us .. not that our "problem" was really a problem. But, anyways, I sincerely respect your turning away from past mistakes. That's deeply respectible and I can't say a word against you because of this no matter what you did before. So, since you've rebuked your actions, I will rebuke mine as well.

However, I do need to correct a few points you've raised since they are in error. You say that you want to learn and share so let me teach and share with you and I hope you'll read this and try to understand.

You were saying that the "Method" had many flaws and that several actors felt this way, therefore, you used that as "bandwagon appeal" that my opinion was an "amusing logical falicy" because it didn't agree with your opinion. However, many others do agree with my opinion which was the entire reason I even brought up my Google search results. Now, I don't think I ever once said you were wrong. In fact, that wasn't the point of my post. I was addressing you in the same way I am addressing Aedus1160. You presented your opinion as a fact. My opinion differed from yours so you claimed it to be "an amusing logical falicy" despite having much evidence and backing for it. So, my statement that you are countering here came from that context. I didn't say you were wrong. I only said I was not wrong. I even said it was a subjective opinion so neither of us were wrong. That's the point I was trying to convey. That's the core of what I was trying to say. The wording, however, came from defensiveness because of your hostility. So, I ask that you disregard the wording and look at the meaning behind them. I meant to say that both of us had valid points of equal importance.

I hope I made everything clearer.

But, don't confuse our situation with mine and Aedus1160's. He's admitted in PMs that he will hunt me down to the ends of the forum, "drag my name through the mud", and will not "let this go" until practically everyone on this forum hates my guts. That's far from what you are making of this situation. He's trying to destroy my credibility with his posts. This isn't a debate for him. It's an eAssassination.

So, that's why I find it highly ironic that Aedus1160 thanked your post because it indirectly scolded him and his actions And, that's why I react the way I do to his posts.

But, regardless of this, take my other posts into consideration. I already do exactly what you propose and I do "cherish that belief". It's that shared belief of the members here that make this forum better than others and why I have such a high post count here. So, I strongly agree with you. I just think you're taking this whole topic out of context since you haven't seen Aedus1160's past posts against me nor his PMs where he's stated his intents in this argument. His intent is to "drag my name through the mud" because he is unhappy with the way past arguments ended. It is not to simply correct a few errors he believes I made.

-- Your above post is ignored until you read this. I hadn't read that when I started typing this so I'm starting to regret some leniency I had with you. It seems you're just trying to "make me look like a fool" which is what you wanted to do in the first page but couldn't so now you're doing it here. I'll with hold this observation until you've read this though.

 

This has gotten out of hand. Everyone's reiterating, and everything's based on opinions, subjectivity and speculation. Posts are also still being reported, and the thread is still highly confrontational, despite warnings.

If you wish to appeal this decision, PM me.

Thread locked.