Ghost (Terran Casters)

Re: Ghost

my bad,im sorry.thought the 100 was the shield,not the hit points. anyway,those would be 70 hitpoints zealots after regaining the shield,so they are not useless in any case.
and nice to know that thing about stim and bunkers,knowing this its always a good idea to stim them before putting them inside right? or does the effect end with some time?

 

Re: Ghost

The effect ends after the same time just like Marines on the outside. The only difference is that you can´t stim/heal them when they are inside.
Unfortunately Stims are pretty much needed in bigger firefights wich means you have to give up the Bunkers cover for a short time-going against the concept of the bunker itself.

Edit: There actually is a difference: Units inside of bunkers get increased range.

 

Re: Ghost

Those ghosts seem to be closer to the Ghost Artwork of SC, the original.

 

Re: Ghost

I just hope that ghosts aren't totaly usless this time around other than for nuking.

 

Re: Ghost

No, thanks to his ability to drop marines from a drop-pod, you will use this unit more time.

 

Re: Ghost

Lol they are not useless, you can use them, in sc1 as subtitute to the marines inside the bunkers, because ghost has a much power to attack and a longest range attack right ???

 

Re: Ghost

Ghosts were a extremely situational unit, they may be the "strongest" casters but they were still casters: you got them for their abilities wich weren´t always usefull.
The new abilities look like they will make the Ghost more usefull. SC2 classifies them as Cloaked Snipers meaning that you will usually use Snipe and the other stuff if it becomes part of your current tactic.

 

Re: Ghost

Actually, ghosts were only useful for lockdowns. Nuking isn't a widely valid strategy in higher level play.

But even though they took out lockdown, I think this time around the ghost is just about guaranteed to be way more usefull all-around than it was in SC1.

 

Re: Ghost

Well, my point all along has been that with one snipe shot and then a regular shot, one zealot dies. So you're effectively using all 150 HP of the snipe. It's technically the perfect unit to use it on. There goes 100 minerals.

10 Ghost > 10 Zealots with no casualties. I'll take it.

This also means that a cloaked ghost is AWFULLY dangerous. It used to be that even cloaked it wasn't all that likely that it could kill a high value target all by itself. You'd need a number of them.

 

Re: Ghost

I would have expected snipe to have more range than the regular attack but thats just me.

 

Re: Ghost

are the 150 damage points before or after armor?

 

Re: Ghost

I think it would ignore armor, but that's just me. Far as I know, none of the abilities were weakened due to armor, so I'd expect that would apply here.

 

Re: Ghost

I´d guess after since it´s a ability but thats just me and Wlck742.

 

Re: Ghost

I just noticed now that the ghost is moved lower on the tech tree. It is now technically a tier 1 unit, albeit with a lot of tech requirements for something tier 1. You can kind of consider it a tier 2 unit in that sense, but in any case, not only is it much better than before, it is actually out faster too. Wow, Terran, just wow.

 

Re: Ghost

ya, before it was ont he same level as BCs

 

Re: Ghost

Maybe large groups of Ghosts will be an option mid-game. Depends on the cost though. If it costs a lot of gas, I'd rather go Siege Tanks.

 

Re: Ghost

Ghost's are sniper's right?

 

Re: Ghost

Yes the are. As a special ability. I assume they will keep the regular canister rifle when not sniping

 

Re: Ghost

if ghosts keep their concussive damage, then large group of them would still be ineffective against most units

 

Re: Ghost

I doubt they'll have concussive damage still, seeing as that was what made them so weak against most units by the time you could get them. Anyways, the Ghost is lower tech now, so concussive damage might not be too bad.