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Duran's Speech in 'Dark Origin'

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by ShoGun, Jul 13, 2007.

Duran's Speech in 'Dark Origin'

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by ShoGun, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. Shadowdragon

    Shadowdragon New Member

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    Why does everyone assume Duran works for the Xel'Naga? I mean, he's completly insane. He's making the most powerful weapons in history from the two species with track records of being homicidial maniacs. And he *probably* thinks he can control them. It is just as likely that he THINKS he's serving a higher power as it is he IS serving a higher power.

    And who says the Xel'Naga are the only ones out there? They may have even made other species. After all, it would be kind of lame (at least to me) if what everyone thought was true.
     
  2. Nikzad

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    I think it is safe to say that he is a servant of the Xel'Naga, because Blizzard doesn't have many other options. It's not like they are gonna do this whole story, then at the end be like "Oh yeah, by the way, there was this other race, called the Bel'Naga, that also did experiments with different races. They are responsible for everything. The end."

    Similarly, they can't just go "Oh by the way, you know how we made you think there was this big subplot where the Xel'Naga, the big link between the two most powerful races in the universe, were planning a big hybrid experiment? Jk. It was just some random Middle Eastern guy who took advanced chem in high school. He got an A."

    PS - w00t 500th post!
     
  3. Shadowdragon

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    On the contrary, there are plenty of options. He could be a rogue Xel'Naga, another species created by the Xel'Naga, an enemy of the Xel'Naga, a diffrent strain of zerg, or a hybrid himself.

    more later
     
  4. Nikzad

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    oh ok, I thought when you said you didn't think he "work{s} for the Xel'Naga," I took it to mean that you thought he wasn't a Xel'Naga at all. The rogue Xel'Naga is definitely feasible. However, I think that at this point it is too late for Blizzard to throw in a new faction that rivals the Xel'Naga in terms of bio-engineering into the SC universe equation. Enemy of the Xel'Naga is an interesting thought as well, I won't rule that out. A different strain of Zerg? Ehhhhhh. Maybe it is a simultaneous/dual-embodiment of the Overmind? I don't think that the hybridization of the Zerg and Protoss would allow shapeshifting though, but who knows?

    I think if it isn't the Xel'Naga, he could be a fourth-party species that can shapeshift. Maybe an enemy of the Xel'Naga. If it is an enemy or a new party in the story, I think a cool thing for Blizzard to do would be to put him in a new campaign as a hero, and you play with him throughout the first two (following whatever storyline they choose, with little hints of hybrids here and there) and then in the third campaign(maybe at the end), you find that this hero you've been using through all these levels is actually Samir Duran in disguise, and he has been working behind the scenes all this time. Maybe a whole 4th campaign or extra few levels where all the races fight against Duran and the Hybrids. But that's enough from me, this turned out way longer than I anticipated. What do you guys/girls think?
     
  5. Deadpool

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    i think that your idea is pretty cool him being able to shapeshift and the player playing as him throught the game and then reveal himself at the end and for your idea for a forth campain where all the races band together and fight off him and the hybrids i think when u click on the forth campain it should ask you what race u wanna play for example if i picked Zerg then i played throu the 4rth campian as the zerg then i would get the zerg ending to the game and same thing for the protoss and terran (all the endings fitting together) and i just got an idea for the ending. Zeratul either over hearing or just assuming the Zerg along w/ Kerrigan planning to betray the other races Zeratul should kill Kerrigan in the night since there gonna betray the others and besides Zeratul prob wants some revenge after he had to kill Raszagal when she was under the influence of Kerrigan cause he didnt want her to be Kerrigans slave basiccaly. But i dont really care for the terran so i dont care wat there ending is lol
     
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    Duran is certanly something evil. He must be a Xel-naga. I red a story about a terran man who found was on a team exploring a Old tomb of the protoss/Xel-Naga. Funny his team died and a sprit of greater higher power took over his body. The man was not Duran at least i dont think he was, but my point he what ever Duran is. he's close to the statues of Xel-Naga. I think Xel-naga made humans and humans wernt good enough so the Xel-naga left them along time ago on earth.
     
  7. JudicatorPrime

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    Disagree, pretty much everything we have right now points to the Xel' Naga with the Zerg and Protoss and had no part with the Humans. It also practically mirrors some backstory in WH40K, where humans were one of the races not experimented on by the Ancient... guys.

    If Duran IS working for Xel' Naga, unless he's defected to some other Xel' Naga organization bent on universal domination I doubt hes a bad guy. He's probably just under their orders... Whoever said that a hybrid was 'bad', afterall their forefathers made or helped in the evolution of both races.. being a cold experiment they have reason to continue it.
     
  8. ShdwyTemplar

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    I bring you guys some help with the Xel'Naga just me and my horrible passion for SC Lore.
    http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Xel%27Naga Hope it helps in some way for the History known of them.
    Starcraft Wiki gotta love it. ;D
     
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    umm... how do these wiki guys know so much?
     
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    You sure you're not talking about the Dark Templar Trilogy novels? Where the spirit of a Dark Templar gets into the mind of an archeologist.
     
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    Yeah. that was a dark templar. well i though duran was possible that guy. and if the protoss are able to do mind controll then the Xel'Naga can do it as well or even better. thats why Durans had thousands of names, because he's been body swaping for Ages!

    Also something in the wikie came up that scared me greatly. It said that the Xel'Naga came from far beyond the Milky Way.............WTF! that means where ever they came from theres got to be more there! there not even freaking natives to are galixy so where did they come from. I bet Duran was sent to look for the Xel'Naga that dissapeared.

    I personaly have a vage vision of how the hole Star Craft world might end and how it might look when it ends. Theres 2 versions of how the story might go down.

    Version 1:
    the terrans and Protoss Destroy all zerg and find out that Duran is from the Xel'Naga and here to finish there job. he figers hell the protoss are good enough and the protoss go home with Duran to a Far Far Far place and the terrans are left with a gift. Raynor Most likely becomes there leader and owns the freaking milky way.

    version 2.
    Durans crazy as hell wants to own the known Univers and trys to make a race thats as powerful as the protoss and countless like the Zerg. He is stopped and killed and also karrigen gets her ass handed to her by a protoss/Terran get to gether but wooping team effort!
     
  12. Hadean

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    Arhghghghgh!

    Another rampaging rant.

    He is BLATANTLY Xel'Naga or Xel'Naga affiliated. They did the hint in a subtle way but once you read it you realize "Wow. I'm stupid. How did I ever think it was NOT Xel'Naga"

    Duran says the words, and I'll quote'em again. "I serve a far greater power.ONE THAT IS REFLECTED IN THE CREATURE IN THAT CELL" What other bloody race is reflected or directly related to both the Zerg and the Protoss that is mentioned, OTHER than the Xel'Naga? Nobody. Thats who.
     
  13. JudicatorPrime

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    And an infested Protoss... he could be just some 1337 Protoss/Zerg dude. Perhaps the Xel' Naga tried combining the species before and created something that now wants to create an army to kill whoever. Makes sense to me. The leader, the original spliced ZergToss could just be hella pissed that the Xel' Naga fucked up with him and the Zerg... And to that end he starts raising a hybrid army, with the help of his pawn Duran...
     
  14. Deadpool

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    EVERY ONE NEEDS TO STOP SAYING THE XEL'NAGA LOOK LIKE OR R REALATED TO THE PROTOSS AND ZERG ill explain again:

    The Xel'Naga FOUND the protoss when the protoss were very primitive they were like animal when the Xel'Naga found them but then the Xel'Naga turned there civilization onto the path they wanted them to and then after the Xel'Naga showed themselves to the protoss after hiding for all those years many of the protoss went crazy or something and killed most of the Xel'naga

    then the Xel'Naga went to a differrent planet where they found a larva called a zerg they then enhanced that larva and all the others they found and then the zerg were created realizeing there mistake with the protoss the Xel'naga then created the overmind so that the xel naga wount have to show themselves to there rampaging destruction but the Overmind Knew about the Xel'Naga so he told the zerg to ambush them 1 day and most of them were if not all on that planet died it is unsure if all of them died or if the Xel'Naga on those 2 planets were simply a expeditionary force and NO 1 has seen a Xel'Naga yet but blizzard has said they will apear in Starcraft 2
     
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    HOW in the WORLD does that prove that the Xel'Naga aren't related to the Protoss and Zerg? Sure, they might not be genetically related, but they sculpted both of them into what they are today. That definitely connects the three races in a very fundamental way. By saying that the Xel'Naga are reflected by the Protoss/Zerg hybrid, you are basically saying that when someone says "Xel'Naga", the first thing that pops into your head is "the Zerg and the Protoss". The Zerg and the Protoss are the Legacy of the Xel'Naga and that is how people remember the Xel'Naga. THAT is how they are reflected by the Hybrid, not necessarily because they are related genetically.
     
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    Watch the ending of the 2nd Singleplayer Video. Fucking Owned.

    Hey Deadpool. You sure Duran wasn't referring to the Xel'Naga? You absolutely sure?
     
  17. GuiMontag

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    we cant be sure he was talking about XelNaga, but if he wasnt then what would he have been talking about, especially since the Xel are going to play a major role in sc2.
     
  18. Drafter

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    Whatever Duran is,its gonna be revealed in sc2 somehow and when that happens i bet that Blizzard is gonna show us those hybrids...They can't just make us wait forever you know !!!! or can they....
    Oh,do you guys think that Duran have any connection with the Overmind ?
     
  19. ArchLimit

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    Drafter, I have my bets on the fact that the hybrid race is going to be shown in SC2. It will probably be an unplayable race much like the burning legion in WC3. I bet it's going to be awesome. I think Blizzard considered very heavily the incorporation of the hybrids as a playable race in SC2, but decided that it would deviate too far from the magic of the original three races, which I'd agree with if that were the case. But at the same time, I think the possible storyline and narrative introduced by the "Dark Origins" speech was definitely very substantial and crucial to the progressing storyline and not just some amusement factor like the Secret Cow Level in D2.

    Either way, I believe that we're gonna see either a hybrid race, the union of "essence" and "form", or the Xel'Naga themselves, or both. God, i can't wait. SC2 is just going to be too friggin' epic.
     
  20. kiksu

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    ArchLimit where do you get all those animations, first the Zeratul on your sig, now the (Zerg?) avatar. hehe