Dragon Age

From what I've read, the PS3 version is better than the 360, as far as consoles go (PC is still superior :3 )

Um. The biggest thing I've heard is that it plays pretty identical to Mass Effect as opposed to Baldur's Gate. A few control frustrations, a few audio glitches (missing voice-overs, no soundtrack) but overall excellent.

Damn you Bioware, with your repetitive yet excellent games.

 

I'm guessing you've never played Baldurs Gate before? Bioware even said themselves Dragon Age is basically the spiritual successor to Baldurs gate as well. It is very similar to it in a lot of ways, such as the combat, how you issue commands and the party system etc.

 

I have.

The view in the 360 version is a third-person over the shoulder, with a radial menu used to access your abilities. Like Mass Effect. Not a top-down isometric like BG.

 

I guess that means the 3D zeldas are like like Mass effect too because its in third person with a button menu system. Oblivion is also a first person shooter because its in first person and you can shoot things with arrows and spells so its like Halo. Thats almost as bad as saying Starcraft 2 isn't Starcraft because its not 2D like the first one.

My point being the view doesn't and menus doesn't necessarily decide what type of game it is, it is the gameplay itself that is the biggest factor and the gameplay is a lot like Baldurs Gate.

 

I guess that means you're being difficult.

Gameplay != setting, lore, characters, or abilites.

Gameplay = engine, mechanics, controls, and interface.

Zelda != Mass Effect gameplay. There is no squad based combat. The ability/item system is completely different. There is no Nice/Mean dialogue options.

Oblivion != Halo gameplay. There is no dialogue system in Halo. There is no third-person view in Halo. Halo does not have sandbox gameplay.

Starcraft 2 = Starcraft. It is an RTS. There is an isometric top-down view. You select multiple units and command them, both with regular attacks and special abilities.

My point is that the view, control scheme, the way PC/NPC interaction is handled, and basic game functions is what gameplay is. Literally, how you play the game. In this case, yes, gameplay is similar to that of Mass Effect and KOTOR.

Not similar to Baldur's Gate.

 

Just bought it over steam and hope to download the behemoth tonight .

Hope i don't regret it...otherwise i will be annoyed at Fenix... though i'm sure i'll love it ^^

 

It seems you just contradicted yourself, this quote clearly shows you said its not like BG but instead like Mass effect because of the view, but now your saying its gameplay which is a bunch of different factors not just the view.

Those examples I gave where not that of my opinion but an example of the logic of your above statement.

Let see what Baldurs Gate does have in common with Dragon Age? Hmmm, its an rpg, it features a multiple character party system which you can control, its story driven, you can make different choices, You can have a top down view like in Baldurs gate if you choose, you can control your characters in the same way, the combat system is similar.

Sure Dragon Age has some similairites with Mass Effect but it also has a lot of similarites with the companies previous game Baldur's Gate. It takes the best from both, I never said it wasn't like Mass Effect in some ways, just that I disagree with you that you don't think its like Baldurs Gate.

Finally, why would the company actually making the game say it is the spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate if it doesn't have similarities?

If you continue to argue it is not like Baldurs Gate, then I would like to hear why other than the view, and a few interface differences.

 

Have you played Mass Effect?

 

Yes, I've played Mass Effect in its entirety, as well as Baldurs Gate. I'm playing the PC version of Dragon Age and it has controls, interface, view,combat, similar to Baldurs Gate. There are no radial menus or just a third person view in the PC version, you can have a top down view, etc.

You don't seem to understand what makes Mass Effect and what makes Baldurs Gate and Dragon Age. I'm also talking about the original Baldurs Gate for PC, as well as Dragon Age on PC. I'm sorry but Dialogue trees aren't exclusive to Mass Effect and Kotor and just because they are presented in the same way doesn't mean they behave in the same way.

Dragon Age and Mass Effects dialogue trees are different in that in Mass effect you basically have a good response a bad response, that will add to your good or bad morale system, In Dragon Age you have many different responses that are not necessarily good or bad but depends on the situation and point of view. There is also no good/bad morale system it just effects quests and your interactions with characters.

 

Didn't he say the console version of Dragon Age plays like ME?

 

He states that he got the game for PC as seen in his quote below,

and that the 360 version has a radial menu and third person shoulder view, Not that he just thinks console version is like Mass Effect. If he did I think he would have specified but he doesn't and still says Dragon Age is more like Mass Effect than Baldurs Gate.

I however believe it takes things from both but is more similar to Baldurs Gate between the two. Not to mention a lot of people who played the game Dragon Age feel the same as I do that it is more like older Bioware and Baldurs gate than it is with the newer Bioware such as Mass Effect etc.

He can beleive what he wants, but it wont change that I disagree and think he doesn't understand the similarities/differences.

I will not argue further, because this is starting to go in circles etc, and I don't want to anger or disrespect anyone.

 

I will shortly play Dragon Age and untie this conundrum once and for all with my ground shattering opinion

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I had a friend talk about how awsome it was at a dnd game so i thought i would check it out and im quite impressed.

 

Excellent game. I've never encountered a game with such a diverse dialogue permutation. The author/writer deserves a pat on the back. However, i have one minor criticism in regards to the combat system. The lack of 'multiple action slots' was quite frustrating in my opinion, i found myself pausing after every few seconds, more so in later levels as the difficulty increases. So i'm wondering whether Bioware intentionally forces player to pause after every action or.. am i missing something here?

 

If you play the PC version, there's actually kinda mod for that. It'll switch your action slots when you change weapons. Useful for Rogues, ok for Warriors, useless for magi

 

Dragon Age Origins?? Apparently its a great game and i cant wait to get it, But this trailer looks more like an epic eragon style movie thats gonna come out..

 

I'm thinking of getting this game but I've got a question concerning the downloadable content...where do they fit in?

eg.
- Downloadable Content 1 should be played after you finish DA:O
- Downloadable Content 2 should be played before starting DA:O main game
- etc.

Any help?

 

DLC can be played whenever really.

The Stone Prisoner is the only one I have....You get a new, slightly OP, character, so if you're struggling with the early game, it's fairly nice to have her.

Haven't played Warden's Keep, but I'd imagine it's a similar story.

The DLC's are pretty much unrelated to your main quest, aside from flavour.

However, I do recommend getting Shale before the Orzammar chapter.

 

Thx for your answer, but what I meant was - when are you supposed to play the DC?
To clarify, if the Stone Prisoner features enemies leveled from 1 to 3 I suppose you have to play it at the beginning of your 'start of the game', if on the other hand they are REALLY hard to beat I suppose you have the play it once youve got a strong character and party..?