Do you want a marine with a bayonnet and a shield ?

other material? presumably the Terrans are already using the most cost effective armor tech they have... armoring individual soldiers with the most cutting edge tech is cost prohibitive... likewise, I doubt they wouldn't use the best alloy that was reasonably priced already

I think to help the visuals it would be nice to just change the shape of the shield - a triangle or kite shield would prolly look a lot cooler than the giant rectangle

 

Maybe these are the old suites from the brood war, and you need to upgrade to the newer material.

 

Why would you switch between when the gun is much stronger and automatic?

 

thats what i am saying. If you added the melee ability then marines would be useless given the fact that most of the time enemies are always in a marines face... and a marine can't aim and stab at the same time. The sheild would be bulky considering that it would have to be big enough to disperse the impact of a zerglings bite...(or whatever they do) and so what if u get that extra moment.....the marine can't hold the gun while carrying the sheild and holding off the zergling. and 9 times out of the 10 there are more zerglings than 1... So then marines vs a zerg in melee.... a zerg would win.... hands down... also a zergling is faster and quicker than a marine so if he had a sheild. it should maybe only add extra health and thats it but even so. a sheild is useless..... thats 1 more thing a marine has to worry about...

 

your argument is flawed, how can you say the shield be useless... lets say we have a fight and we both have a sword, would you rather not have a shield when i have one? shield is useful against melee attacks that's why ancient armies use it. the shield is also useful against other projectile weapons such as enemy marines and stalkers. the reason modern soldiers don't carry a shield is because it's to heavy & cumbersome, but the marines wear power suits giving them incredible strength. the shield can simply be an attachment for the power suit and the marine would have to worry about it. they are still carrying their gun using both hands

 

yeah but you named several reasons why it was useless. "ancient" "human"
Where not fighting humans are we..... Where fighting human hungry creatures. The I am pretty sure if a zerg can bite through a marines power suit... they won't have any trouble going through a extra bit of metal.

 

even if the zergling could the shield will still give the marine extra protection, say it takes the zergling 3 hits to rip apart the shield that's 3 extra hit the marine has survived, even 1 extra hit is better than nothing. it's not as if the zergling will bite through the shield and the armor at the same time

 

wow 1 extra hit really changes the tide of battle. thats maybe 1 more shot of the marine... if not.... that.. and your also forgetting that the sheild really isn't a sheild if it gets cracked in 1 hit.... its pretty much useless i can see the sheild being usefull if it has a chance of blocking enemy attacks but then again marines aren't that fast and protoss and zerg units beat them in that category of speed by a long shot...

 

1 hit extra will turn the tide of a battle considering it only takes 8 hits to kill a marine, but they decided to give the shield 15 hp meaning it can survive 3 hits which is huge. yeah the shield might crack but it has served its purpose, buying time and allowing marines to shoot more rounds. even when the shield breaks the marine still has armor, the same armor as the unshielded marine, it's not as if we are replacing armor with shield. the shield is an addition not a replacement. any addition, however small, is better than nothing.

 

but who is to say they might beef zergs.... we don't know what the final outcome of everything is that is why i say its useless because blizzard can say lets make zerglings stronger.. and boom sheild is useless....

 

again, your argument is not logical, having the shield is still better than no shield, and why would blizzard make super zerglings anyway.

 

I don't know why most of the detractors seem to keep making contradictions. If a Terran shield is useless, then so is Terran armor period. If a Terran shield is too heavy, then so is Terran armor period. If an advanced tech bayonet is useless, then so are psionic blades. What, some sort of advanced tech personal weapon is useless, but a dagger created thru mental projection is ok? An advanced tech blade is useless, but claws, tusks and teeth are ok?

We say mental daggers and big teeth are legitimate threats because they come from fictional alien species. But don't forget... Terrans are a fictional alien species too. Just because they look like us, does not make them us. It's a fictional sci-fi universe.

The only legitimate concern is visual quality. And in that respect, I agree that they might be able to find a better design.

 

Well said Nate. The only thing we have really to talk about is the visual aspect - the design of the marine. The fact that they carry a shield makes that shield useful - because Blizzard said so and in the fictional universe of Starcraft Blizzard determines what is truth and what is false.

So about that design of marine. I agree that the shield doesn't fit in there completely and it really wouldn't fit at all if the marine came with the shield. But the marine doesn't come with the shield. The shield is an upgrade. This makes it a whole lot better from the design point of view - that shield is supposed to make the marine look stronger - a large, thick piece of metal attached to his arm makes him look a lot tougher than the normal marine without the shield. So when you upgrade your marines for that additional 10hp (or whatever the amount) they get this large shield on their hands and then it really does look like they can withstand a lot more enemy fire. This is the point of the shield - it gives a visual identification to this upgrade, it makes your soldiers seem stronger.

One thing that bothers me about the shield is its textures. The shape of the shield is more or less ok (the shape seems functional and useful, like the shape of most military shields today - only bigger) but the textures look awful. That giant coat of arms, so many flashy colors - the shield doesn't look like military issue, it looks like something from Warhammer40k which is definitely not Starcrafts cup of tea. At least it wasn't until it entered the 3D world and now the whole game looks like a damn cartoon and this shield is no exception.

Bottom line: keep the shield as an upgrade but give it a more military, functional and gritty look (less flashy colors and no coat of arms).

 

for the love of god, it isnt a powersuit, it is a life support suit

 

it is a life support suit/power suit. they weigh a ton how else do you think the marines are even able to move in them?

 

Naw iff, it's not a power suit. It's only a huge fucking cybernetic shell they're implanted in that they control with gismos. And it has turbines in the back to power it up, but its not a power suit. It's just so they can breathe. Not so they can hold a gun that looks like it weighs a good 40 lbs.

You know what else it isnt? A fashion statement.

 

:stupid:  It has robotic parts in it who helps to back up, why do you think they control the arms with controls (you can see tychus findlay grasping some control stuff when they put on the hand)

if it was only for breathing then it hasn't need to be uber big, which it is

 

inpox, I hope you're taking my side, as opposed to not realizing sarcasm when you see it.

 

as a punishment, the one who said it's not a power suit should go and watch that tychus findlay movie again for 20 times

 

yeh, its powersuit all the way

*bashes in Hadean's head*