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do you think starcraft have the potential to be BIGGER than starwars?

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by zeratul11, Dec 30, 2007.

do you think starcraft have the potential to be BIGGER than starwars?

  1. SOGEKING

    SOGEKING New Member

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    Star Wars got a success at its start in the 70's because there was nothing to compare with this movie at that time. That's the same with some artists, some musicians and singers, they had no big rivals and they got success because they were alone. No one could rival them.

    Now we have a lot of stories of sci fi around us. So people will not make any favoritism, even with Starcraft. We are overwhelmed by animes, cartoons, movies, advertisements, etc .... so we can"t appreciate the SC universe.

    Plus since the time of the release of Star Wars in the 70's people have this movie in their heart, so nothing can replace it. But now this sci fi movie is complete, the storyline is known, and maybe Starcraft can replace Starwars.

    Starwars had a storyline that touched us : the fight between good and evil, how from a brave jedi Anakin Skywalker became the brutal Darth Vador, and how a Republic became an Empire. That's .... Napoleonish ! :D


    It would be great to have a new sci fi movie in the theater : STARCRAFT. It should start with the beginning of the storyline. I mean when we are still on Earth, and that 4 big vessels full of criminals are sent to nowhere in the universe to colonise the Koprulu sector. They will become the Terran. And for the Protoss and Zerg we should see the Xel'Naga "creating" them. And after that there should be an episode which starts the SC universe gameplay universe we know.

    So, according to me, Starcraft could be bigger than Starwars if people fell in love for the movie. That's the only aspect to show. But in the storyline people should have people on whom they can attach importance. For Starwars there were Anakin Skywalker, Luke, Leia, Obi Wan, R2-D2, Darth Vador. But for Starcraft, who could replace them ? Arcturus Mengsk, Sarah Kerrigan, Jim Raynor, Zeratul, the Overmind, Dugalle, etc ... The storyline for Starcraft, in the movie, must follow those characters. There was a progress in Starwars : Anaking become slowly Darth Vador. What for Starcraft ?

    Starcraft has a chance to be bigger than Starwars if the storyline is bigger than Starwars'one.
     
  2. Jissé

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    I have the same point of view.

    I do pity those people who can't live one day without their TV, their cigarettes, their beer, their video games, their cars, their MSN, their facebook, and/or anything else our consumers society created.

    The buying-dead.


    Otherwise yes, Starcraft has the potential to match the Starwars popularity, but it will probably not, ever, because of the reasons above, and because Blizzard is not Georges Lucas.
     
  3. zerodown

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    Do you really think 8 million kids is a big number world wide?

    I mean you compare these figures:

    wow players: 8,000,000(disregarding multiple accounts and unused accounts)

    world population: 6,602,224,175

    yeah 8 million is nothing.

    Now that I thought you a bit about math, compare the fan base of starcraft to the fan base of star wars.

    (this is to the one saying a movie could make it bigger than star wars)
    First, star wars is far from dying, star wars will easily outlast you, its still growing to this day, and i don't see it stopping any time soon.

    second, do you really think a movie can do it? how many people know the existence of something called starcraft? out of those how may actually like starcraft? now think that even if they made a movie, there will be two groups of people who go see it. The ones who know what starcraft is and the ones who go to see the new sci fi movie on theaters. the ones who know what it is will like the movie and probably love it, BUT, they are already fans, so these group is not making starcraft bigger than starwars, the other group will go to the movie and when they go out they'll rate the movie and keep going with their lifes, probably 1 out of 100 will get interested and search some more info on the series, not much growth in there.

    A sci fi movie today is nothing, just a new movie that people will go see to get out of the house.
     
  4. It's actually 11+ million now :D
     
  5. Jissé

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    And it's actually 6,602,224,256 now.

    ... No wait, 6,602,224,257 now.


    Hold on, 6,602,224,256 actually.

    6,602,224,215 in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... Ouch, that might have hurt.



    8 millions monthly subscribers to a gaming service is huge. We don't really give a damn how big the mankind is to define this or not. To sell 500K copies of a game is already a success, so 8M, this is just awesome. I would almost say scaring for a MMORPG...
     
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  6. Dude.. That video was EPIIIIIIIC

    I might watch that a few times.. I loved it..

    Although, I've seen some WoW nerds that rival these nerds
     
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  7. Wlck742

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    @zerodown: Riiiiight, it's really fair to compare the number of WoW players to the rest of the world, more than half of whom have no access to a computer or even electricity.


    The lack of common sense among today's people worries me.
     
  8. zerodown

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    First of all, I made the comparison so that you realize how tiny 8 million is, i live in an island that is 100x35 miles and it has 4 million people in it. Now the 8 million is also to compare it to the star wars fans, which i can't find a number, to the tiny 8 million wow players, and even less starcraft ones.

    On a side note, your claim only strenghtens my point that starcrafts will never be as big as star wars, because it needs internet to get known and like you said, half the world doesn't have access to even a computer, BUT, they know what star wars is without internet.
     
  9. Jissé

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    He has a point.

    Darth Vader is probably the most famous villain in the world and in all times, and Starcraft cannot match with that.


    Georges Lucas didn't need computers and electricity to advertise his movies!!1

    But to not play the most famous video game of the world will not prevent me to have fun with Starcraft 2 personnaly.
     
  10. 11 Million is still a lot for any game. There are more active subscribers right now than people who bought StarCraft..

    Why do you guys continue to say 8 Million? That was the number about 1.5 years ago.
     
  11. zerodown

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    1. The topic title is starcraft being bigger than star wars.

    2. Someone mentioned wow and I used it for comparison because wow is bigger than starcraft and still far far smaller than star wars.

    3. 8, 11 or 20 million is still just a silly tiny number world wide.

    4. they are not trying to prove 8 or 11 million is big for a game, they are trying to prove starcraft can some day be bigger than star wars.

    5. no one here is trying to bash your precious wow game. who cares if its 8 or 11, if you get hurt or offended because someone in a forum says wow has 8 million members then my friend, you have a problem, no offense, but why do you feel so proud that a game has 11 million accounts? your so proud of it that is someone says 8 mil, you jump from your sit and start screaming its 11 it 11, who cares? it could be 300 million and its still just a game, when you turn your computer off your maxed out paladin means nothing.

    sorry, i get carried away some times.
     
  12. Thingdo

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    I don't ever see Starcraft getting bigger than Starwars. Starwars is just such a clasic that I don't think anything can ever really take its place in the sci-fi world.
     
  13. Jissé

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    I do:

    [X] Lords of the Ring
    [X] Matrix
    [_] Galactica
    [X] Stargate
    [X] Aliens
    [_] Final fantasy
    [_] Terminator
    [_] Judge Dredd
    [_] Robotech / Macross
    [_] Dragon Ball Z
    [_] Warhammer 40K
    [X] X-men (indirectly suggested by ijffdrie)
    etc (I am sure you fans have many other titles that have at least almost as much room/importance in your mind than Starwars)

    Starwars is very popular, yes, but it is also old and looks like to have some difficulties to renew itself.

    I agree with your last post, except on this point again I am afraid.
    A ten of millions of people is not tiny, be regarding the sales of a game or a huge accident or employment or anything else. It is not because billions are not involved that this is basically nothing: A game sold at 2 millions is already a damn good score, 5 millions is a success, 10 millions and you are in the top ten of the most sold games ever, and 15+ millions has simply never been recorded so far. So no, 20M for a video game is not tiny, and this is not my opinion, this is a fact.
     
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  14. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    add doctor who to the list and i agree with you mister Jissé
     
  15. Jissé

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    Done.


    Sort of.
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    well, i would also agree with x-men, and all the other marvel titles except daredevil, but i dont understand what the most famous english scifi show has to do with marvel, an american comic producing company
     
  17. Jissé

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    The name reminded me this beat'em up on Dreamcast, Capcom vs Marvel.

    I am not sure to know who is Doctor Who actually... ^^!
     
  18. zerodown

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    Reading that I didn't know what to say to make my point, but then at the end you said, IN YOUR MIND. Thats exactly what it is, because from that list, yes I love most of those, but like starcraft, as much as I love it I have to accept that its not bigger than star wars, thought IN MY MIND i think it should be.

    Also, most of those I wouldn't have picked to compare to star wars. Because, the biggest in there are lotr, matrix and x-men, BUT, these are movies that were pretty big when they came out(btw making record sales on theaters is not what makes you big as big is being defined on this toipic, it just makes it a success) but today, just a couple years after they came out, who do you hear talking about those movies? where are the conventions? where are the fans? where are the "could starcraft be bigger than x-men? matrix? lotr? etc..."

    A game selling 11 million is huge, but read number 4 again: they are not trying to prove 8 or 11 million is big for a game, they are trying to prove starcraft can some day be bigger than star wars.

    Im not saying 11 million is a tiny number in game selling, im saying its a tiny number of people world wide, and it was intended to compare it to the number of people that are fans of star wars who are the ones who make star wars big.