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Do you need all 3 games to get the full MP?

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by necromas, Sep 16, 2009.

Do you need all 3 games to get the full MP?

  1. ronin2011

    ronin2011 New Member

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    Well, thnx kimera for bringing up a source..!

    Seriously, kiwi, I think it's the same model type, used for expansions, that we have seen so far.. sorry :)
     
  2. niceshadesnick

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    There is no way that they would make you buy the new expansions for more units, or to compete with someone who has them. If they do change anything, it will most definately be included in a patch.

    THE 3 GAMES ARE TO DISTINGUISH THE SINGLE-PLAYER EXPERIENCE ONLY.
     
  3. Kimera757

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    Niceshadesnick:

    "There is no way that they would make you buy the new expansions for more units, or to compete with someone who has them. If they do change anything, it will most definately be included in a patch."

    There's no way they would charge you to buy the Brood War expansion for the new units... wait a minute. They did! Patch 1.04 does not give you the Brood War units.

    Brood War has been out for ten years and people still cannot understand this? Maybe it's because the newer players just buy the Battle Chest and never see the original StarCraft (except the campaign). That must be it.
     
  4. niceshadesnick

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    That's different. BLIZZARD HAS SAID that they will not force ANYONE to buy more than 1 of the 3 games.

    What do you think will happen if they force people to buy all 3 games? People will flip. Brood War was different, it came out 11 years ago, and it didn't cost 50 bucks.
     
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    You are never forced to buy any of the games. If you buy the first one, you can always play with those same people, which is the same thing as buying the next two expansions.
     
  6. Kimera757

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    "BLIZZARD HAS SAID that they will not force ANYONE to buy more than 1 of the 3 games."

    That is such a vague quote, that could mean anything. Do you have anything better? How about a link?

    Also no one knows what the StarCraft II expansions will cost -- Blizzard hasn't even decided that yet. Where do people come up with these figures from, other than a crystal ball?
     
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  7. AleksanderKibwe

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    Wow, nick, you are truly, truly lost. Blizzard has already directly said that you will have to buy the expansions if you're to use the units. That immediately negates the quote you were using even if you had read it correctly .. which you were far from doing.

    Also, you weren't forced to buy Brood War. You just really wanted to because of the people and the extra content.

    AND FOR THE LAST ********** TIME ROB PARDO HAS ALREADY SAID THAT HE DOUBTS THE EXPANSIONS WILL BE FULLY PRICED/50$.
     
  8. niceshadesnick

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    Alex: The units are for SINGLE PLAYER.

    It's like you guys want to have to buy all 3 games, what the ****?
     
  9. AleksanderKibwe

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    Do you honestly believe that or are you just playing some kind of joke that I'm not picking up on?

    Once again, here's some DIRECT QUOTES STRAIGHT FROM BLIZZARD:

    http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/10/11/key-starcraft-ii-trilogy-details/

    Did you even bother to read the press releases to form your prediction or did you just dream it up?

    And, yes, I would love to buy all three expansions because they provide me with even more of the content I love. I'm not Communist. I don't mind paying for something that's going to give me years of joy. Hell, I'd buy a hell of a lot more than just three products if they put them out.

    And, again, I'm going to challenge you to give some worth to your opinion by backing it up. Why do you have a problem with the StarCraft trilogy but have no problem with Brood War, Lord Of Destruction, The Frozen Throne, or every other damn expansion pack? Is it really that hard for you to get 40$ over the course of more than twelve long months?
     
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    Yes, it does bother me that if I don't buy the 2nd pack in time, some scrub will pwn me with units I've never heard of.

    "Where the hell did that come from?"

    "I got the expansion, and these new units I now have make the game imbalanced for anyone who does not have it"

    Does that sound right to you?
     
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    "Yes, it does bother me that if I don't buy the 2nd pack in time, some scrub will pwn me with units I've never heard of."

    If you don't have the expansion pack, you can't even play with said "scrub".

    If you don't have Brood War, you can only play StarCraft I multiplayer. The other guy doesn't get to use Brood War too. (Speaking of which, C&C IV breaks this rule somewhat, in that more "experienced" players can have a greater variety of units. There's none of that in StarCraft II though.)
     
  12. AleksanderKibwe

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    Again, how is this different than every other expansion pack since the dawn of time?

    Also, I hope I'm wrong but I detected a slight hint in your words that you thought that your opponent would be able to use units in expansions that you don't own. That's not going to happen. It's exactly the same as the original StarCraft in that if you're playing the original multiplayer neither you or your opponent can use Brood War units.
     
  13. Kimera757

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    I was assuming you were making a mistake :)

    So, if your original statement really meant:

    "Scrub" gets Heart of the Swarm right away.

    You wait 3 months, so you hardly know the new units.

    Well, same thing with people who buy the original game late. That's not a big deal, and it's the same as with Brood War.
     
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    sources and hard evidence were linked to and quoted from by AleksanderKibwe on page 3, but even if we didn't have that, it would make a lot of sense for blizzard to go in the proper direction as a business, taking into account the game industry as well as common practices for expansions.

    i would buy all 3 only because 1) i don't buy/play other games anymore, 2) it's STARCRAFT 2, 3) followup to the previous - it's worth it! (but that's subject to change) right now, it's all anticipation.

    but i wouldn't get the collector's edition :p i got that for warcraft3 xD
     
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    ok, it's pretty obvious that niceshadenick hasn't owned any blizzard games up to this point. Starcraft, warcraft 3, even diablo 2 all have expansion packs that bring in new multiplayer content. and the multiplayer is separated for those who do and don't own the expansions.
     
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    The way i see it, Blizzard may opt to include 'new units' for each of the sequels to the game. Otherwise, i believe just the campaign mode alone is not a strong incentive, nor does it warrant the price ($100 AUD) of a full pc game. Of course, i suspect that blizzard will develop a system that will allow players of different expansions with access to different units play together such as THQ's Company of heroes. However, having 'additional units' as a result of buying an expansion may affect the game balance so i'm not 100% confident. Either way, it's a dilemma for the developers at Blizzard, though it would be nice if it was able to find a balance.
     
  17. DeckardLee

    DeckardLee Guest

    For the last damn time, the above has been denied by Blizzard. I can't believe this is still going on.
     
  18. Kimera757

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    Someone probably read amazon.au's price and thought it was based on reality.
     
  19. DeckardLee

    DeckardLee Guest

    Haha, imagine your opponent being able to use Dark Templar and Corsairs when you can't use Devourers or Lurkers.