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Disappointing story.

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by ketchup, Aug 16, 2010.

Disappointing story.

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by ketchup, Aug 16, 2010.

  1. Rebel Head

    Rebel Head New Member

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    I liked the story, but it was no where near as good as the original starcraft and broodwar.

    I agree with all the points being made. The whole thing of exposing Mengsk's tyranny to the media seemed liked it didn't serve the story well enough, actually it seemed pointless, especially after you team up with Valerian and half of the dominion army to take on Kerrigan. In Starcraft 1, there were few characters, but every character played a substantial role in the story, but in Starcraft 2 most characters are just "side characters" that come and go and dont serve the story in any special way. Not just characters, factions too, like the Tal'Darim. Another thing that didn't fit was how little focus there was towards the massive zerg invasion in between missions. I would think if the zerg were attacking and wiping out billions of people as the news says, alot more tension would be focused on that occurrence rather then the feud between Mengsk and Raynor.

    Maybe I am wrong, perhaps everything that has occurred will serve the story in some way, we'll just have to wait for the next two expansions to see how it all plays out before we can make any kind of stern judgement.
     
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    i just feel that the story didnt really match up to the sc 1's story, although they did tie up a few loose ends. but man if i was fenix i would be pissed
     
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    It's excruciating....to think that Blizzard has fallen so far.....zerg infestation?
    More like Activision infestation!
    Blizzard...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
     
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    The zerg don't fell tha tscary. I mean in sc1 campagne, you had the feeling of the big bad swarm, the spiritual protoss and of the terrans. Yet I must agree on the fact that only 1 expansion got out but still i had no big feeling of zerg destroying everyone after 4 years of hiding. The sc1 story was real battles. The sc2 story is find an artifact, collect 8000minerals. The only time in the story that was really feeling like a battle was the ending missions. I mean the whole sc2 story so far is find all the artifacts and assemble them.
     
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    Partly agree with story weaknesses, partly disagree. I'll start with negative part, then finish with positive :)

    SPOILERS BELOW, BE CAREFUL

    After the whole story, I suppose it was developed by Blizzard something like that (joking, ofc):
    CEO: we need Kerrigan and Rayor be together again.
    Scriptwriters: Boss, that's impossible! She's Queen **** of the Universe, it's nonsense!
    CEO: You have your orders, gentlemen. Carry them out!

    So scriptwriters have the final goal, and need to solve all the problems to reach it. The problems are:

    Problem 1. Kerrigan is a zerg, and there is no obvious solution to cure her.
    Solution 1. Let's make some ancient artifact, without describing where is it from or how it works (just ancient, that's enough). It'll do exactly what we want.

    Problem 2. Kerrigan is a mass-murderer, killer of Zeratul's and Raynor's friends, betrayer, and, all in all, not a good person in human's eyes. Even cured, saving her life and forgiving by Jim is not so clear and obvious.
    Solution 2. Here comes an ancient prophecy, which says that without her all the universe will fall in darkness. That'll unite all good mates with her against the new threat.

    Problem 3. Zerg is powerful, Raynor forces are weak, he cannot reach Char alone, even with artifact. Arcturus is the enemy number one, so we need some new allies.
    Solution 3. Suddenly Valerian appears, who has 1/2 of the Dominion fleet and wants exactly the same as Raynor - go to Char (with not so clear motives, as for me).

    As a result:
    Gamers: Guys, what have you done!
    Scriptwriters: We made a deal with a devil, boys. She's cured - we go free.

    So lot's of events in the story are made only to reach the final goal, and maybe not so obvious and consistent, as for me.
    Instead of the SC 1, where it was one or to stories, consistent and completed (even between episodes), here we have many stories, not obvious and sometimes uncomplete:

    Tychus's story looks finished, but it has no impact at all on main plot.
    Valerian story unfinished and unclear, his motives uncertain.
    Dominion revolt story unfinished and unclear, too. If Mengsk is still at his throne, then all effort must be useless and rebells are suppressed (rebel can't last forever).

    And the positive part now :)

    I solved campaign twice, with russian and english voices. I definetly liked how the story ended, anyway. If it is revealed so many times that where is still human soul deep inside Kerrigan, then someday it must go free. And if we don't want SC 3, SC 4, etc. for the next 20 years, it's a good time to do it. I am romantic in mind, I like positive endings :)

    Maybe the story is not consistent, but definetly interesting to play, as for me. Someone said that first SC was about war, and the second about random quests through the galaxy, and that it's all bad and sucks. I don't think it's that bad, it's just different, and damn, it's good to be not the same. There is not so strict chain of missions, it's more freedom, and I like it.

    Also, I think it's amazing when every mission is not like the previous one. Maybe it spoiled storyline a little, but overall it's definetly the right thing, gameplay only wins from it.

    Well, that's it. Sorry for big chaotic post and my bad English :)
     
  6. marcmad

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    **spoiler**

    when I heard kerrigan would be the only hope to save the universe that the overmind created her to free the zerg I was like sweet and I found it logic. Kerrigan have a free will and she control the zerg. It mean that the hybrid cannot take control of the zerg without killing her and that she is the only obstacle. I imagined the zerg campaign somewhat her fighting with the swarm agains't the hybrid.

    Now kerrigan is de-infested,the zerg are without commander and the way is free for the hybrid. Damn what have you done jim...

    maybe it feel more epic for the next chapter when we say it in that way
     
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    Kerrigan can still control the zerg, and will obtain her powers back during the next part, Heart of The Swarm, so it's ok. Deinfestation just made more freedom for her furure development.
     
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    I liked it.
     
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    I do agree that some of the...depth seems to be missing because the side story-arc's flip back and forth so as to allow freedom. However overall I agree with how the plot proceeded.

    The zerg infestation has been cured before...at least according to the N64 only version of starcraft where you free some guy from the zerg. Its cannon, so I pretty much figured they were going to try and de-zergify kerrigan in the 2nd game.

    After reading the newest? series of books (about valerian and protoss preservers) you actually learn much more about his motivations in surpassing his father...it goes into much more detail then the game does.

    I would actually like the final mission of the toss expansion to be a repeat of the "end times" mission...except this time with all the work of zeratul and raynor making the diffrence and turning the tide.

    Hopefully zeratul doesn't die...I kinda feel like bliz might go ahead and do it...but he really is my favorite character in the serises.


    Thats a jumbled collection of my thoughts about this as I wait for my plane :p sorry about the mess
     
  10. kingsky123

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    blizzard had a habit of killing off every good guy. the only one that made one series jump was the orc blademaster dude from warcraft 2 to warcraft 3? (hellscream?) but he died later in warcraft 3 anyway.

    still, after world of warcraft people just stopped dying.
     
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    I though it was an ok story, but it wasn't much of a complete story, so hopfully the next two clear things up.

    Im also confused on what they will do for HotS, with Kerrigan "deinfested" will her Zerg side simply prevail and then she will begin a new massacre? And how will the hybrids effect the Zerg/Protoss campaigns.

    I'm also a little disapointed in all of the new and what would seem unnessessary characters thought.
    like I understand why they put tychus in, and I'm ok with him, but people like the ghost chick and ghost dude really probly didn't need to be in the story. Same with Matt Horner (thats a horrible name btw) what did he add to the story? same with that mechanic guy, they seemed to stray a little to far from the core characters and that is probly one reason why this campaign wasn't feeling up to par, cuz they were more focused on a bunch of characters and fully on the story.

    Overall is was an alright campaign in which I hope is resovled over the next to expantions.

    (Also as a side note who's going to be in the other expansion packs as far as characters go? I mean kerrigan will mostlikly be in there and what else? lings and hydras?
    same for toss the only people I've seen would be those toss you have to kill as zeratul, the toss you side with Zeratul and the ones that want to burn the planet thingy in that one mission (with the Zerg infestation stuff.) I'm just pointing out that blizzard is going to have to be a little more creative in the next two expantions.
     
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    i read it, and i agreed 100% upon it, i think i can safely say he just wrote out our opinions on the story if you felt it was bad
     
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    omg....am I you? :p
    because i think the same way.the dialogues:dumb,stupid and boring.
    and the whole thing about prophecies it's soooooooooooo Hollywood.and furthermore,i hate stories with prophecies,fate is already written,etc.....

    and of course the chars...the science kid WTF?!!