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Cobras are out!

Discussion in 'Terran' started by Heavyarms2050, Dec 14, 2007.

Cobras are out!

Discussion in 'Terran' started by Heavyarms2050, Dec 14, 2007.

  1. DarkTemplol

    DarkTemplol New Member

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    Starcraft Wiki probley has stuff on them.
     
  2. Ronin

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    A BC costs 400/300. I consider 300/300 quite cheep for a hulking Thor.
     
  4. Ronin

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    I know but thats what ive found, kinda bummed about cobras gettin the axe. The thor just lost one of its biggest weaknesses though...i think. Oh yea and did you see the 100 sec build time? besides nothings perminent.
     
  5. zeratul11

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    but still a modern high teck hovering semi tank unit is > than a high tech vulture. =p
     
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    Vulture was a poor unit full stop. We need the Cobra back and it needs to attack air and ground, just take off that electric attack which slows units and Terran will be fine.
     
  7. Anubis_theDark

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    It says in the bath that it takes the place of the cobra as ground to air unit - not that the cobra is removed. The cobra will most likely remain as a ground support unit with it's slow down attack while it will probably be given a new role or abillity. Also the thor might as well be a great capital ship killer while the viking remains the light gunship killer. I wouldn't be surprissed to se thors kick the sh$#%t out ot battlecruissers or carriers and considering the fact that it is huge and scv buildable, not to mention production cost it will not be OP. This bath is great news, because until now as far as i can remember we all thought that the thor had no uniq role that other units couldn't take. And again i didn't see where it says that the cobra is out "they have now decided to have it replace the Cobra, as the heavy and air unit counter" - replace it as anti -air not cobra out.
     
  8. needler

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    Viking is a capital ship killer, not a light gunship killer.
     
  9. Gasmaskguy

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    And the Thor will most likely do splash (or have multiple attacks), making it counter Mutas and such.
     
  10. Anubis_theDark

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    Just because in that movie about the terrans they used 20+ viking to destroy those BCs doesn't mean that the viking is good against capital ships. As far as i can remember they all attacked at once and a second attack was needed to destroy that BC. If the viking was indeed a capitalship killer than that many viking would have destroyed that BC from one attack. Plus at that time they had no other ship to show except for the viking and BC. So no. I don't think the viking is a capital ship killer or even close to that ideea. My guess is that thors will probably be given an anti-capital ship dmg, and you wont need 20 thors to kill one BC with a single attack.
     
  11. Gasmaskguy

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    Vikings ARE capital ship killers. The BC's were killed in 1.5 volleys, not 2.
    Also, Vikings are cheap and benefit from the reactor, meaning that you can muster that many real fast.
    The BC's had no time to deal further damage apart from using abilities when they came, and fleeing would not have worked either, since Vikings are quite fast.
    It was almost instant death for the BC's.

    And 20+?? I counted them. They were 16...
     
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    Well for me 16 ships attacking one ship and not being able to kill it in one attack ...is not a good counter for that ship. But this is not about the viking's abillity to kill BC's. The thor is now the terran ground heavy air attacker, and it remains to be seen what role the cobra will take right now.
     
  13. longlivefenix

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    yea the unit does seem like it would do more to capitals than regular units
    i anticipated that the predator would be the unit that would take out air threats like mutas or phoenixes quickly
     
  14. zeratul11

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    yes bring back the predator. viking as the main ATA unit sucks.
     
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    I can agree to that. The Predator design was good, and Vikings general stats are nerfed to make room for the walker mode.
    But now with the GtA Thor; do we really need it?
     
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    the predator?
     
  17. Gasmaskguy

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    Yes, the Predator. The Thor might be really effective at pwning air.
    The Thor is of course not flying, which gives us a glimpse of hope. If Blizz thinks that Terrans need another AtA that is.
     
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    i dont know if i like the thor as a GtA
    i liked it more as a GtG but i think it should have minor AA abilities like the wraith but reversed
     
  19. Overling

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    Well, no one said that Vikings were capital ship killers. They were vastly outnumbering the BCs on that demo video. And I have to say one more thing: I told you Thors would be great anti-air, didn't I? \o/
     
  20. Gasmaskguy

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    Arrrghh!!! Overling pwnd us! Although you said it before the change, when they actually did. :p