'Cliffs' Are they still safe?

Exactly, plus the scenery gets kinda boring after a while...that's why i like other maps like Bloodbath, Luna, and Longinius better

 

what do people think of tribes? ultimate siege map lol.

 

Tribes is nice. Balance through general symmetry
http://www.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/bw08/tr.jpg

I've always liked Proving Grounds though
http://www.battle.net/images/battle/scc/lp/ladder/xpg.jpg

 

Proving grounds are one of my favorite maps.

Yea I'm sure that'll lead to victory. :

 

yeah and how about those cliffs in tribes eh..? very dangerous perhaps

 

Cliffs have always been dangerous. Never know what's on top unless you are. Thats why I bring along science vessels.

 

I am aware that units firing from cliffs will no be revealed. The point in question is the fact that ground units (so far the reaper and colossus) can move up cliffs as if they were ramps and therefore bypass their traditional ground defenses.

 

you could have just said that they can go up single cliffs and not double cliffs. we've discussed this in other topics as well.
(ledges ARE cliffs)

 

The only person calling them ledges and cliffs is you. And you did not say that your cliffs were 2 leveled cliffs and that your ledges were 1 leveled cliffs. Also, the lack of fog of war being revealed for any unit higher than you would apply to your ledges and cliffs while your post refers only to the fact that this occurs on cliffs. So, with everyone else saying one leveled cliff and two leveled cliff as well as the miss-assignment of the term 'cliff' in your last sentence regarding vision of units, you cause confusion in the terms you have assigned and yet not entirely stuck to.

 

Nothing pointed out in the opening post is new threat.

Immortals, anti-tank meatshield = ultra
Colossus, terrain/cliff crossing = all air units
Phase prism, warp-in = shuttle, dropship, ovie drop, recall

High ground tanks were always nice, but they were never the be all end all of anything.  Mutas don't even stop by to say hi to them before ass raping SCVs.  High ground will always be what they are, just another tactical elemental that you can try to use to your advantage.  I missed the part about high ground tanks owning all in the SC1 manual.

Before going into panic mode and getting your panties all up in a bunch over old threats in new packaging, consider how nice the high ground fog of war element will be for tanks.  Tank attack animations are instant and have no real travelling projectile, thus, you can not deduce a direction of origin. They also have super long attack range, good luck guessing where tank fire is coming from in SC2.

 

It'll be like Dien Bien Phu all over again. Except instead of thousands of vietnamese guerrillas taking the artillery apart and carrying it up the mountains and then reassembling them, it'll be a tank going into siege mode which is a lot quicker.

So really, this topic should be about how walking near cliffs when you aren't on them won't be as safe, not how being on cliffs wont be as safe.

 

those silly french people, building a fortress in a valley

 

Yeah, in the vietnam war the north vietnamese army tried something similar against the united states. Except the United States had built it's base on the top of a large hill/small mountain. Long story short, the United States held out through a long siege and won that particular battle.

 

haha "this worked when we had the high ground so we will try it when we are attacking the high ground"

 

Precisely. I know I'm gonna hate siege tanks so much this time around.

 

in the artwork trailer, the part with the colossi, a bunch of zealots are attacking a terran base just behind some immortals, which are absorbing all the tank fire, all of them in a 2 unit wide line. this will probably be a common formation when assaulting terran bases to get the most out of the hardened shields.

 

Yeah, most likely burkid, hell, that's what i'd do...guess the age of the siege tank is finished guys... :upset: for when i play Terran ;D for when i play Protoss

 

Oh heres a question i just thought of about cliffs.
Would colossi be able to see over cliffs because of their height and the fact that they are counted as both ground and air for targeting purposes?

The age of the siege tank isn't finished because you can't attack them unless you are on the same level as them or higher or have something else revealing them.

 

i would assume colossi can see up 1 level of cliffs

 

eh maybe even more since they are soo tall