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can ultralisks be beaten by terran with no air?

Discussion in 'StarCraft Original' started by Nuclear Launch, Nov 4, 2008.

can ultralisks be beaten by terran with no air?

Discussion in 'StarCraft Original' started by Nuclear Launch, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. ArchaicDrago

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    i do 2v6 comps with my RL friend and we use legit maps and its hard to beat sumtimes. Kinda hard when ur Terran or toss and theres 3 zerg comps that wanna do a 6 zergling rush on u. 18 zerglins with in the first 2 mins of a game can be hard to beat, but not allways

    and ive seen pro ppl get nuked befor. ppl nuke randomly on the map and make the other person freak and they send there detectors around to find the ghost. then a second nuke goes off on the outside base defences and yea.. its been done. The best SC player in the world can prolly get nuked.
     
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    1. it's a comp -.-
    2. unless ur boxer, ull have trouble nuking a Zerg.
    3. it's a comp-.-
    4. it was a comp...-.-
    also, unless ur playing fastest, nuking is EXTREMLY hard. (once again, unless ur boxer)
     
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    so what if its a comp? comps can still screw u over.
     
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    comps dont micro, they dont attack expansions, and they dont ever attack with more than like 6 units once u get past there first attack.

    like if ur playing a protoss comp, here what happens. they attack with like 12 zlots, then send like another attack with 6, and from then on theyll send a few goons or maybe a scout to attack you and they keep doing that for the rest of the game with maybe a 1 or 2 more real attacks. maybe in a 2v6 you could lose to the first attack, but thats it.

    "the best sc players in the world could prolly get nuked". no. progammers dont leave there army by there bases chokepoint. they move there army around and get control of the map. (often called map control)

    as for the whole "nuking somewhere random on the map." thats just....no xD
    1. a player wont freak about a nuke. (useally)
    2. why would you nuke a random place anyways...you could atleast kill somthing.

    again unless its fastest, nukes almost never happen. if your trying to nuke and they scout ur covert ops or nuke silo, it wont work.
     
  5. Arvendragon

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    WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

    Comps massively maphack, and whenever I play Zerg, I actually CAN'T expo until I have a large army. The computer knows what you are doing:
    -If you get DTs, they KNOW, they get Turrets, Obs or Cannons.
    -If you have Carriers, they get Scourge, etc.
    -If you have Ghosts, they get detection
    In other words, secret tech is NOT an option. Macro and micro, no teching, unless you need it.

    The best way to find out?

    Watch SlayerS_BoXeR replays. (I spelt that wrong.)
    Watch iloveoov replays.
    Watch NaDa replays.
    Watch Mind replays.
    Watch FanTaSy replays.
    Just watch TvZ.

    Practice always works, but only against humans.

    Try this:
    SK Terran
    Science Vessel massing, Irradiate the Defilers, and IRRADIATE!
    Marines and Medics and Siege Tanks.
    Have 2 Starports.

    Dropship Tech
    Get M&Ms and try to drop the enemy. Simple as that.

    TvZ is all about harassment. The Zerg units are generally too strong for M&Ms, especially Lurkers, Mutalisks (with micro) and Ultralisks. Guardians are infrequently used, so they are not that much of a threat. Vultures are not very effective due to the fact that they have Concussive damage, which is only good for Zerglings.
     
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    comps. even tho they map hack, there still easy.

    but yea tvz, u gotta hurrass alot.
     
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    Not when its 2v4 or above.
     
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    u can only really win super easy on Fastest map.. Juss wall the entrance and the comps Go durrrr................ a wall i cant get threw! only things that will get u is seige tanks.. thats about it
     
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    Um... The Terran enemy never does anything on a Fastest map. Its the Lurkers and Guardians that own you.
    I can 1v7 Terran enemies easy on a Fastest map.
     
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    ive never seen a lurker burrow in front of a wall in the fastest map. nor guardians. i just see siege tanks kill my wall from the shroud
     
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    Hmm.
    IDk
     
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    In terms of offense that is your invading a colony of zerg with ground units and they throw ultralistics at you... your screwed, sideways, on the street, bleeding and left for dead. In defense.... bunkers with firebats work nice and tactically built supply depots guarding siege tanks also do a nice job.

    Edit: Can't believe I forgot about the vulture mines -facepalm- those work quite well against all zerg.
     
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    DON'T EVER DEFEND!

    TvZ is all about harass.
    Trust me - One Deflier and Dark Swarm = GG
     
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    The Terran infantry with full weapons upgraded would keep them at bay! Much better within a bunker.
     
  15. Arvendragon

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    NO! NEVER BUNKERS!

    Welcome to the forum.

    EDIT: This post should be:

    Can Carriers be beaten by Terran with no air and no Goliaths?
    MWAHAHAHA!

    Carriers - Max 7 (YES SEVEN ARMOR!!!) Armor, and Marines 9 dmg = 2 dmg per Marine. HOLY ****.
     
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    I've actually seen plague to be better. Zerg's best chance to kill the mass of vessels(nighthawks) Terrans always had with thier army. First plague them, then later send a few mutas to attack them and try to escape before the marines kill them all.