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Can Protoss Be Infested???

Discussion in 'Protoss' started by logi boy, Nov 25, 2008.

Can Protoss Be Infested???

Discussion in 'Protoss' started by logi boy, Nov 25, 2008.

  1. capthavic

    capthavic New Member

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    Actually I'm pretty sure it was the zerg who were purity of form and the Protoss were purity of mind. Also I looked it up again and on page 53 the protoss clearly says it's the fortitude of the khala that keeps them from being infested.

    Either of those would be a good idea. much better than having infested terrans coming out of a protoss building lol
     
  2. Gasmaskguy

    Gasmaskguy New Member

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    No capthavic, Zerg is purity of essense, since they are all somewhat connected to each other, and controlled by one. (An Overmind, or Kerrigan like it currently is)
     
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    Zerg is purity of essense, not mind (yes there's a difference).
     
  4. Gasmaskguy

    Gasmaskguy New Member

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    Argh, I just wrote what he wrote. :p Edited now though.
     
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    SO CAN ZERG UNITS INFESTS PROTOSS???:eek:[/QUOTE]

    Woah dude. Take your pills.
     
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    No. Can't even infest terrans now. At least not in-game. Pity, its was kinda cool.
     
  7. alex1

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    Lore wise, Zergs can only infest Terrans, as protoss, their natural enemy, are protected by their fortitude (Khala). But it doesn't seem in SC2 that Z can infest the Terran Command Center like in SC. I wish they could though :(
     
  8. Kimera757

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    Zerg can still infest terrans in the single-player campaign. Hell, there's an entire mission about it.

    Infestors can also spit out infested terrans, but in multiplayer, that's the only way to get them. (In lore, infestors "eat" them beforehand. Apparently they're stored in the infestation pit.)
     
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    Maybe the infester and "infest" a unit or maybe at least take complete control of an enemy unit, but it wouldn't be able to move while you have control of the unit.

    Like a zealot comes near the infester burrows and controls the zealot. Now the infester cannot move and is "infested" then he can use the zealot to scout or whatever until he disconnects, the zealot is killed or he is killed.

    Also the infester loses all energy and it doesn't regain any energy until it is done controling the unit.
    The lore would be that it spits the infected Creep at the Protoss unit and it sepparates the unit from the Kala. And the creep then takes control of the body (even though the zealot is still alive and starts to go crazy) and takes orders from the infester. Also there could be a time limit (like one second for however much energy it had) and when the time limit is over the zeralot regains control of it's body and cuicides because it's insane.

    Now where's the lore that goes against that that I don't know.
     
  10. alex1

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    I do know that this is your interpretation of the lore :p.

    Nothing says that when the link to the Khala is interrupted, a Protoss or Zealot becomes crazy or suicides, even though this has happened. Dark templars are quite the example.

    Besides, even assuming this is 100% true, again, nothing says you can infest Protoss once their link to the Khala is severed. They are not Zerg (who could be controlled by interrupting their connection to the overmind).

    And if you are talking about a new ability, making a Zealot or Protoss unit go crazy and commit suicide after being infested would be called a "sniping ability".

    And while we are at it, what effect would it be on T units? Sever their radio system with their HQ and make them go crazy and wild, killing all their mates and making them suicide afterwards? Woah, take pills ^^.

    Not gonna happen (your interpretation of the lore, not your pills of course) :p
     
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    I would think that the Protoss' Khala would protect them, because maybe if the Zerg infested them somehow even with the Khala, then they would gain access and maybe 'mind control' the Protoss?
     
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    with the Terran it would simply infect their minds and make them go crazy. (a simpler task then infesting protoss)

    and it would disable the link with zerg as well.

    and they suicide after because of the infection that kills them right after you lose control.

    it could balence out so that you have to control that unit and you lose you're unit until its killed, and maybe you would lose you're infester if thats what it takes.

    (was just an idea.)
     
  13. Wikiuser5.5

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    If Blizzard didn't have the nerve to remove it, we all would be amazed, I was at least trying to find a picture of a Infested Protoss.
     
  14. Kimera757

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    You can find the closest thing here:

    [​IMG]

    Although he might be a hybrid instead. (In any event, the zerg didn't just infest him. It was a once-in-a-lifetime event.)
     
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    I don't believe Aliens vs Predator had been released when StarCraft and the BW expansion were respectively released.

    Thus there was no predalien concept to borrow from.

    Perhaps this time we will have a cut scene of a fallen zealot honored and left on a memorial table on a protoss ship, and his chest will move after his comrades have left the room.

    :radar:
     
  16. Kimera757

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    As soon as Aliens and Predators appeared in the same universe, the "Predalien concept" existed. It was inevitable.

    There are decade-old video games and comics where the two alien species "coexist".
     
  17. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    A big question here is if there is a difference between protoss/zerg hybrids
    Created to serve as the new Xel'naga
    and infested protoss, which was the plan of the overmind.
    I have no doubt that the overmind started experimenting with Protoss. But even a psionic human took very long to infest, and it could be that he simply had not enough time to do the same with the stronger protoss. And since the death of the overmind, not even psionic humans could be infested, probably because the overmind held all the neccesary knowledge.
     
  18. Kimera757

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    Blizzard hasn't settled on that lore, exactly.

    Dustin Browder has said "based on the lore, the Protoss do not become infested. The combination of the two result in a hybrid race".

    Of course, Blizzard has also disagreed with this statement. This makes this kind of speculation "impossible" to resolve. It is my personal opinion that any combination of protoss and zerg results in some sort of xel'naga incarnation. Duran's hybrids may be a twisted improper incarnation, but they still are, and same with that "infested protoss" from the Creep short story. But this is my opinion, not entirely backed up with canonical facts.

    Also, I believe you're just wrong about infesting psionic terrans. The problem is not psionics at all! It's intelligence. Obviously if you lose your intelligence you lose your psionic abilities.

    Sarah Kerrigan went through an extended infestation process because her powerful psionic abilities made her a "worthy" subject of the Overmind. But if the Overmind had spent that amount of time on a genetically-compatible non-psychic terran, they'd still result in an intelligent infested terran. In fact, Infested Kerrigan did just that to Ethan Stewart.

    And on the topic of genetic compatibility... again, it has nothing to do with psionics. In the Hybrid short story, before Amanda Haley (a psychic) was infested, a non-compatible non-psychic was infested and came up "brain dead". Then Haley was infested through the same long process and also came up "brain dead".

    I suspect, once Kerrigan's cerebrate (the one in Hybrid, that is) discovered this gene pattern, it (or a queen, or infestor, or overseer... sheesh!) simply did a "cut-and-paste" operation on any valid infested terran from then on, once the Amanda Haley experiment failed. As a result, the lack of a compatible gene pattern means nothing, since the zerg are masters at rewriting genetics.
     
  19. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    actually I was replaying Starcraft 1 and I noticed a line from the overmind. He did not say anything about infesting the protoss, but rather letting the protoss into himself. This one reminded me of the way the overmind absorbing the Xel'Naga was described.

    At this point I'll go absolutely crackpot. We know from the PAX research that protoss, while intended to have purity of form, are not yet at their evolutionary pinnacle. We know that the Overmind took a lot of knowledge from the Xel'naga(including some technology, such as sensor probes), so he should have known that the protoss weren't enough to create a new Xel'Naga race by infestation yet. We also know that the Overmind was not in the original plans of the Xel'Naga race. They created him to guide the zerg on Zerus, a seperate construction from the zerg.
    So the overmind could not have created the Xel'Naga, for he is not a zerg, and he should have known this. But then why would he want to absorb the protoss? Is it knowledge, like it was with the Xel'Naga?
    Or maybe it is something different. The overmind did not originally have a body(or if he had, it was a different one, probably located on Zerus), but he constructed one out of the zerg, empowered with psionic crystals. He then intended to absorb a protoss into this personal structure, perhaps to become the only Xel'Naga, a single person around whom time itself revolves.

    Yeah, I love crackpotting way too much.
     
  20. Kimera757

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    That wasn't technology. :)

    Also, why would you say the Overmind should have known that much info? It couldn't even locate Aiur from the information taken from the xel'naga. It just seemed to think "that way!" (It had to get the final locale from Zeratul's mind.) I doubt the Overmind got the full xel'naga knowledge, and I believe neither Zamara, Ulrezaj nor Samir Duran have all that knowledge either.