Borderlands

I'm not including Fable in the rpg genre, if that's the kind of games your aiming at.

 

Aurora, I think everyone's entitle to their opinion. I don't like the game, i am judging it the way it shoud be. The action is quite satisfying, but it's too repetitive and the quests are universally the same. For your record, i hate Mario and his entourage. I don't even know why people enjoy so much. Also, i've played the game for more than 3 hours, why would i need video previews? Also, you mentioned shooter + rpg, i know many in my opinion, excel in those two areas. Fallout 3 and Bioshock are such examples who are well, easily among the best. Borderlands isn't quite up to that. Less sarcasm would be appreciated, and note that it's just a game. There's no need to be a fanboy over it? I respect your opinion as you should mine. Let's all be a happy family.. err.....forum.

 

Novacute: the point was, why didn't you do your homework before sinking $50 on the game?

I personally did tons of homework, and then got it at a discount (Steam, pre-order four-pack, my copy was ~$34). The game was more-or-less exactly what the reviews and previews said it was.

You're really in no position to complain if you just picked it up at random. Entitled to your opinion? Sure. But it has never been the policy of this forum (or any forum I've ever encountered) to treat all opinions equally. Opinions aren't sacred. It's survival of the fittest out there. The game has plenty to complain about. It's a lot less exasperating when people complain about things relevant to what the game was actually trying to attempt.

Here's a list of concerns that might be considered more valid:
-Console-ported UI
-Flimsy control over settings
-Arbitrarily inaccuracy (Fenix's problem)
-Poor matchmaking
-Disproportionately shallow grenade system
-Disproportionately shallow/nonexistent shield/armor system
-Low enemy variety
-Questionable balancing of weapon types and element types
-Being allowed to look at Crimson Lance vehicles, but never, ever drive them >_>

Here's a list of concerns that will cause people to look at you funny for bringing them up:
-Playing like an RPG
-Playing like an FPS

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@Fenix: It's probably not you, it's probably the gun. The dot isn't "where the bullet will go", rather, on all scopes, you'll get a small circle (or in the case of some shotguns, a huge circle) around the dot- that's where the bullet will go (most of the time, at least). Even with a super-accurate gun and accuracy bonuses, you will never get a 100% hit rate, but you can get close, especially if you play it safe and choose nearby, stationary targets.

Fun fact: most guns are more accurate when fired while scoped in, as in, a shotgun will even have a tighter spread. Some guns behave differently when scoped in- for example, Krom's Sidearm will fire in 3-round bursts when fired with the scope and some rifles will fire in (slow) automatic.

As for the strange jumping....
A lot of people would see a silent space battle and think it feels unrealistic. We're used to being able to jump a certain distance, but it is likely the case that Pandora is less massive than Earth. Jump height isn't a universal constant. My guess is that it was intentional, as the developers made a big deal about making an environment that was "alien but believable." They just gave us the gravitic equivalent of a silent space battle- it ends up being kind of weird when you actually encounter it.

One thing I still don't quite understand is the sunlight/moonlight cycle. That big bright thing in the sky? Star or satellite? Tannis' journals mention "moonlight cycles", and the big white orb doesn't move- it just has different degrees of being obscured by shadow. If it is the planet's moon, where is the star?

 

I disagree with Fallout 3 and Bioshock being much better than Borderlands. Fallout 3 is more of a RPG, and Bioshock is more of a shooter. Borderlands however blends both together unlike any other game.

Fallout 3 and Bioshock is not like Borderlands in my opinion, the only similarities would be you shoot and have rpg elements but they are different in each.

I can say the shooting in Fallout 3 felt terrible but it had great rpg elements and the vats system. Then with Bioshock it was about the shooting and felt like the rpg elements weren't all there.

If you say Fallout 3's shooting felt better than Borderlands I'm going to slap you. That and I can't believe you are comparing Borderlands to stuff like Bioshock and Fallout 3, that is like comparing Metroid Prime to Call of Duty just because both you shoot in both of them.

Then the compliants about realsim, is very unfounded in I think any video game personally but especially in Borderlands since it is a SCI-FI game, meaning its fantasy, fiction. How can you complain about realism in jumping when your playing a game with aliens, alien technology, your on another planet, etc.