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Battle Report 4!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by ronin2011, Oct 19, 2009.

Battle Report 4!!!!!!!!!!!

  1. SOGEKING

    SOGEKING New Member

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    I believe they took their time before this BR was translated into other languages, and subbed
     
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    ronin2011 New Member

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    yeah.. a month... lol
     
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    i visited the official site but still no battle report 4 (Starcraft2.com)

    hmm so disturbing..

    Please don't double post. Use the edit button.
     
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    I think you are asking the wrong people that question :p.
     
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    Rather go check on U tube and you'll see that match. It was pretty interesting, especially when you hear Dustin Browder commentate on this matches. I hope that someday they could add a commenting option for this games, it would be awesome.
     
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    Kaaraa Space Junkie

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    Yea, the Karune wasn't kidding when he said screen shots of Psi Storm did no justice.

    Is anybody else wondering how that Ghost was micro'd? The wiki page on nuclear strikes makes me wonder if the "move away when unfrozen" thing is still in the build.
     
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    The best battle report so far. Nice to see Factory units build as well as Ghosts, nukes ,Thors special attack and Psi Storms. It also appears that both Reapers and Marauders has stimpacks now. But why didnt the Protoss players build any Cannons and Immortals? Without cannons cloaked Banshees could have been a excellent choiche since the Prottos player only build a single Obeserver? Why didnot either player build any Carriers, Void Rays, Vikings or BC?

    Also I think this match was played very recently (at least after Blizzconn) since at Blizconn Robert Simpson asked what the Thor was in the first 2 vs 2 match.
     
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    I think before the game both players decides to explore the maximum of some units. Here I would say Hellions, Marauders, Thors, Nukes, Planetary Fortress and Observers, Stalkers, High Templars' Psi Storm.
     
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    Holy cow, nuke takes just 60 SECONDS to be built! That's an insanely short time!
     
  10. SOGEKING

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    There are some aspects that show that this game is not balanced yet. As Cabbage said nuke just took 60 seconds to be built. It is impossible that Blizzard decided to allow this. I am sure Blizzard let it like this for this battle report and knew that it will be balanced in the future. I think that seeing a nuke early in the game is also a bad idea that Blizzard knows that it should be fixed.

    The Thor. Normally this unit is so huge that it had to be built outside, in the battlefield. When this unit turned around itself on the Terran gameplay footage (in 2007, remember) the Thor wasz very slow to move. Now ... it moves easily, as a Goliath. Is it because it is built in a factory and that it is now a tiny unit ?
    Blizzard should be more clear about the personality of the Thor.
     
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    I support the Idea of bringing back the "Built out on the battlefield" for the thor..
     
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    I second that, although it must have a long build time, so that 20 SCVs cannot build 20 Thors in a matter of seconds!
     
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    I'd like to agree with you Ronin but some very experts told me that if we allow an SCVs to build a Thor outside, in the battlefield as it was originally decided by the devs, do you see that there will be something bad ?

    Imagine that, for instance, you have a lot of money, like 10,000 minerals and 10,000 gas, and that you have 12 SCVs, what will you do ? Build 12 Thors TOGETHER. So ... there will be no balance. That's why Blizzard decided to build the Thor inside a factory. They will be built in serie, not in parallel. But does that explain the the Thor reacts now like a Goliath ? It is not as huge as it seemed to be at the very beginning of the release of SC2 in 2007
     
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    sogeking.... if you have manage to gather 10k minerals and still be alive you can also have, how many?? 12? I say 10 factories... Thus you can build in parallel 10 Thors...

    To escape that situation you can make it more expensive, you can make it have longer build time and make it have more requirements..
     
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    Building a Thor will be like building a Battlecruiser, in question of time and cost. The BC is huge, heavy and slow, as for the Thor. However the Thor is a ground unit so it can't be built anywhere. That's why I suggested (over 1 year ago) to give the Thor a lift up/lift down option, like for any Terran structure. It would take the building Thor shape. But that suggestion is going too far according to certains. We don't want an overwhelming Thor.

    PS : 12 Factories building 12 Thors in parallel ... I haven't thought about it. We can see how less powerful the Thor is now than in the gameplay footage of 2007 (already). Blizzard should keep back the building the Thor outside concept again, but I doubt they will do so.
     
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    In my opinion Thor's actual role now is a "tanks" role... Suck as much enemy fire power as it can...
    Blizzard MUST give it's role back... Hard n' slow...

    and of course "Built out on the battlefield".... Let's role people...
     
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    I totally agree with you my dear Ronin. That's what I said and re-said and re-re-said before months ago.

    And this specific Thor, the original one had more personality, more character, was unique, as the Mothership was before Blizzard decided that we could build 2 in a game, than just ONE unique vessel. The Mothership, you know, is one of the vessels the Xel'Naga used to flee Aiur. They were unique, there were not 100 not even a dozen of them. 2 per game, used just to cloak structures, and no more Black Hole ?

    Oh please Blizzard, what's going on ??
     
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    Well... I loved black hole also.. though it seemed a little OP, for a unique(and storytelling) unit it would be in..
     
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    Well blizzard already expressed there concern aobut letting thor be built out on the battlefield, nad how it wouldn't fit in with the gameplay, its wasn't balanced. I personally like the role the current thor takes, which is absorbing all the damage it can, while having a sieging ability. To me the terran were lakcing in that area, and having a unit as bulky as the thor take up that role was perfect. I think the old thor's model was too overshadowing to the siege tank, and now with the thor redone a bit, the siege tank has earned its place again. Just my thoughts on it (no trolling intended o_O)
     
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