Zerg and Khala.

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Supahboih, Jan 6, 2010.

Zerg and Khala.

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Supahboih, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. Supahboih

    Supahboih New Member

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    So, the Protoss (or, most of them) are connected to a pshycologic mind-string of some sort, the "Khala" as I remember it.

    And the Zerg are also connected to each other (or at least their cererbrate, now Kerrigan.) with a pshycic-string.

    And since these creatures have the same creator, do you think it's possible for the Zerg/Protoss leaders to connect to the other species "link"? and thus use it as an advantage?
     
  2. cautionmike_190

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    plausible..... as if there all insects
     
  3. Spardas

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    or at least create some spy unit that can connect or sth...its the kind of unit the zerg could focus on evolving
     
  4. Gforce

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    possiblely, however, if the two links were to merge i believe the pyshic resinoance would create a massive feed back killing a lot of the weaker ones.
     
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    It is possible and it did happen, though not intentionally, when Zeratul slew one of the Overmind's Cerebrates. In the Starcraft universe, things like psionics and telepathy usually aren't bound by differences in species (as we've seen with Kerrigan controlling Raszagal, or any of the other similar instances in the novels). That being said, most Zerg are mindless monsters, and only work together because of mass mind-control. One could also assume that mind controlling by proxy would be similar to that of computer hacking by proxy - with each link in the chain, it gets harder to track down the source and obtain information from it.

    But hey, that last part is just speculation. For all we know it could be possible, but our heroes have just never thought of it.
     
  6. ShdwyTemplar

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    Well from what we know of the reasoning behind the creation of both the Zerg and Protoss we can see that their is a similarity. I think that in fact it was intentional that such a bond occured. This is do to the fact that each is a representation of two crucial elements. This is the reason as to why the Xel'Naga intervene in their development to continue the cycle. Purity of Essence and Purity of Form. Form relating to the mental functioning of the Protoss and Essence relating to the fierce physical nature of the Zerg. However, we see that both sides has an impure form of the other. The Protoss having the impurity of Essence and the Zerg having the impurity of Form. So in all likely hood they should have similarities. The main difference between the forms is that the Protoss purity of Form itself allows the individual to connect to the "Khala" and retain his freedom of choice. The Zerg purity of Essence allows them to continuously strives to create more powerful strains of Zerg.

    If these were combined such as the Xel'Naga wished then we would see the birth of a powerful life form. Overall I think that the connection between them is very likely.
     
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    maybe the Queen unit controll them like ant hive
     
  8. Supahboih

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    she does.
    with psycic powers
     
  9. Spardas

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    If kerrigan could control the matriarch then why hasnt any protoss tried to control any zerg yet? i mean zeratul could have the power to do so....the dark archons sure have mind control
     
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    A crucial mission in Enslavers II involved mass-mind controlling zerg.

    What you seem to mean is, why don't they mind control cerebrates or Kerrigan? In the first, they can't (and now the cerebrates are dead) and in the second, no opportunity. Kerrigan never led troops directly against the protoss for more than a few minutes in the entire campaign.
     
  11. Spardas

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    cant they just mind control an overlord? that should give them control over some zerg units
     
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    no its not possible
     
  13. Spardas

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    lol...why is it not possible?....i would sure like to see some arguements
     
  14. Kimera757

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    Only dark archons can do this. (We were told this in the Brood War manual.) By the time of Twilight, Ulrezaj was the only dark archon (since they don't last long, and their creation was banned again).
     
  15. ShdwyTemplar

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    Also to expand on what Kimera said, although a Dark Archon can mind control an Overlord it does not gain control of Zerg units, just the Overlord. Overlords provide the Zerg with measures of relaying commands to the Zerg units. Thus when an Overlord is mutated from an Egg we see an increase in our ability to command Zerg. An Overlord is just a relay for instructions. When you lose an Overlord in game you aren't allowed to control anymore units than you already have in game until you form more.

    This isn't a discussion of Overlords though. Its a discussion of control over the Zerg. A Dark Archon in game was allowed to mind control a Zerg Drone and thus create the whole Zerg tech tree. This however is linked to the separation from the Zerg Brood link. The Zerg can be controlled and influenced when they are isolated and spoken to on a link to link basic. This was proven during experiments by the Confederacy to control the "xenomorphs" using Ghost who communicated telepathically to them. (although the only successful subject was.. drumroll... Kerrigan.) This showed that the Zerg could react to influence from sources outside the Overmind, but they would have to be isolated. Now this relates to a Dark Archon in that it is isolating and severing the link the Zerg unit has with the swarm. This isn't however a whole brood swarm, but a single unit from the Brood.

    All in all we know it is possible, we know it has happened in the case of Ulrejaz and use of the warped Khaydarin crystals and the control emitted by the Psi Disrupter. Whether or not this has a larger impact we will eventually find out. But for now we are left to guess.
     
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    The Disrupter did not emit control; it hampered it. The UED controlled the zerg through capturing the second Overmind. Then they found a way to (I presume, anyway) prevent the Disrupter from breaking control over their own zerg.

    There were only two missions where the UED had a Psi Disrupter, and in neither case were they actively controlling zerg.
     
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    Sorry about that Kimera I should have been more clear on what control I meant from the Psi Disrupter as you are correct. It doesn't control the Zerg themselves, but how it does control and disrupt the the psionic link the Zerg have to whatever is controlling them(Overdmind, Second Overmind, Kerrigan. That is what I meant, my bad.

    However one piece of information has come up as I was fact checking that was interesting to me is the different energies of the Templar and Dark Templar in relation to the Psionic Link. As the energy of the Templar could not permanently kill the Cerebrates, but the energy of the Dark Templar could. Without more research right now I can't exactly say what it means. But I would guess it would be important.
     
  18. Kimera757

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    The energies of the zerg are similar to those of the Dark Templar, even though they work like those of the Khala (eg communistic, not individualistic).

    The xel'naga used Void energies, but may have used other energies as well.
     
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    wait. What?!?!
    Where you read this?!?!?! Da were banned?!?!?!?!
    Link!~!!!!!!!!!
     
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    for the zerg, he psychic network is based upon 1 mind who controls everything i.e. Kerrigan's mind is essentially the network.

    The protoss is actually a massive group of minds. think of the Khala as a b.net/WoW channel, everyone can participate but there is nothing ruling them.